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His lay of the meeting is very, very eye opening..

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Have to say that while I liked Gavin Lynch and the pair of them together in what was an entertaining show each week, he rarely, if ever, came up with anything this place wasn't already weeks or months ahead on. And his twitter 'punting pointers' are parody levels of bad.
Relatively new to all of this so can't pretend to know anything about Johnny Dineen, but he seems well regarded by racing twitter so i'm really looking forward to what he comes up with.
 
Many thanks for that. Great watch. Love the new guy Johnny Dineen, forgot about that other geezer already!

Yeah, I found him incredibly refreshing, strangely, as when I saw him initially I had thought who on earth is this guy :highly_amused:

Doesn't beat around the bush, just gets on with it :encouragement:
 
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Jonbon for either the Arkle or the Turners.

His bets for this week were American Mike for the Bartlett & The Nice Guy for the BANC, DJ's was Zanahiyr for the Stayers.

Eye catchers from last seasons festival/season were Hollow Games (as a handicapper), American Mike, Authorised Speed & Capodanno.
 
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He had two lays .........Jonbon who he just doesn't rate, thinks he's average, and he also said he wouldn't back L'Homme Presse at 1000/1 for any race at the festival with stolen money.
 
Jonbon for either the Arkle or the Turners.

His bets for this week were American Mike for the Bartlett & The Nice Guy for the BANC, DJ's was Zanahiyr for the Stayers.

Eye catchers from last seasons festival/season were Hollow Games (as a handicapper), American Mike, Authorised Speed & Capodanno.

Thanks, I can see why he'd be against Jonbon, he's not one i'm hugely confident about either, I don't think there's a huge amount of depth to the Arkle again though and as we saw this year, it's a race that can fall apart a good bit. Hasn't put me off, if he turns up he'd still be first or second fav and I really do think he was always a chaser, with anything over hurdles a bonus. We shall see of course, good to have someone on it not afraid to make such calls and make things a bit more thought provoking!

American Mike being by Mahler is enough to put me off punting him as fav in one of the toughest antepost non handicaps there is to find the winner! Everyone will be glad he likes The Nice Guy though! Might have to watch Capodanno runs back a bit today...
 
Yeah, I found him incredibly refreshing, strangely, as when I saw him initially I had thought who on earth is this guy :highly_amused:

Doesn't beat around the bush, just gets on with it :encouragement:

Agree. Can't wait for the next one now !
 
He had two lays .........Jonbon who he just doesn't rate, thinks he's average, and he also said he wouldn't back L'Homme Presse at 1000/1 for any race at the festival with stolen money.

Thank you too. Looking forward to watching this now! Two from two at Cheltenham including at the festival, pretty bold call, although when you see what could line up for the GC he'll almost certainly be heading for, perhaps looks bolder than it really is. Again though, thought provoking stuff, sounds like it'll be a belter of a show this year.
 
Thank you too. Looking forward to watching this now! Two from two at Cheltenham including at the festival, pretty bold call, although when you see what could line up for the GC he'll almost certainly be heading for, perhaps looks bolder than it really is. Again though, thought provoking stuff, sounds like it'll be a belter of a show this year.

Said he's just a mud lark and that it just fell right for him on the Wednesday when it lumped down. Was damming of the Capadanno ride too. Found out in decent ground at Aintree. Basically thinks he's shit.
 
Hoping Facile is supreme bound then as all my Mike bets are Ballymore :applouse:
 
Hoping Facile is supreme bound then as all my Mike bets are Ballymore :applouse:

JD won't be happy. Think the record of Bumper winners going on to win the Supreme is 2 in it's entire history. That said, I do think Facile Vega will win any race he ends up in .
JD did say he'd buy FV over Constitution Hill. That's how highly he rates him.
 
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I'm all for a bold opinion, and I'm also all for L'homme Presse not winning a GC to be honest, but that's just complete nonsense isn't it. Wouldn't back it at 1000/1...

Also ran a mid 160 RPR on good to soft hasn't he. So not even sure the ground comment is completely warranted. Undoubtedly prefers a bit of a cut but how often don't we see soft in the description at Cheltenham these days. 2/2 at the course as well, as has been said.

Wouldn't be my first pick but if anyone does fancy laying the 1000/1 I'll be in the queue. ​​​​
 
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Give JD a ring Benjy. Opinions is what it's all about. Be very, very boring without them !
 
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Give JD a ring Benjy. Opinions is what it's all about. Be very, very boring without them !


​​​​​​Agreed pal. And I don't want to listen to any fence sitting! I just think the 1000/1 part might be a lie :beguiled:

I've just looked up L'homme Presse on Betfair (wasn't even aware what price he was before that tbh) and can lay at 17/1! Assume he's balls deep in that already (for the avoidance of doubt I know he's not)
 
Would be interesting to know who people on here feel is the biggest lay of the meeting of the fancied ones, even this far out.


I Have several I don't fancy at all ........ Elimay, Epatante (Mares Hurdle) would be at the top of my list if I did lay horses.
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Would be interesting to know who people on here feel is the biggest lay of the meeting of the fancied ones, even this far out.


I Have several I don't fancy at all ........ Elimay, Epatante (Mares Hurdle) would be at the top of my list if I did lay horses.
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100% agree on Elimay. As many on here have stated, it's too early to be backing mares but I think Scarlett and Dove is better horse and only for Elimay getting weight this year at Cheltenham, S&D would have won.
 
Paddypower have added more cheltenham antepost races to their site. From looking I think Bumper, Mares novice and triumph have been added.
 
Would be interesting to know who people on here feel is the biggest lay of the meeting of the fancied ones, even this far out.


I Have several I don't fancy at all ........ Elimay, Epatante (Mares Hurdle) would be at the top of my list if I did lay horses.

Redemption Day (Supreme)
American Mike (Any)
Epatante (Mares)
Shishkin (CC)
 
Redemption Day (Supreme)
American Mike (Any)
Epatante (Mares)
Shishkin (CC)

With you on Redemption Day. Reckon he's ground dependant so the Tuesday G/S or worse will be against him.

Not sure re AM. If Facile Vega is very good then he's pretty good.

Epatante......tick.

Shishkin......tick
 
I don't think epatante will even run in the mares hurdle so she'd have to be right up there
 
I don't think epatante will even run in the mares hurdle so she'd have to be right up there

I do not think she'll run anywhere. Reckon she'll be gracefully retired.