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somer1 said:
Any one had dealings with a tipster called Newmarket mole? Got someone asking me about signing up for 40 pounds a month but i have never heard of him?
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No idea who they are but its probably safe to assume that they only warrant a well known two word phrase in response that rhymes with 'f**k off'.
 
No idea where the whole Champion Bumper runs debate was on here but adding this here - the rule changes for 23/24:

The following changes will be introduced for the start of the 2023/24 season:

1. A maximum of three runs permitted in National Hunt Flat races.

The only exceptions will be where:
  • the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, or the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree. Where the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree.
  • In the case of fillies and mares, a fourth run is permitted in either the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March or the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree. If the fourth run is in the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March then a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree.
2. 6-year-olds no longer permitted to run in National Hunt Flat races after the final day of the Jump season (in any given Season commencing from the 2023/24 Season).

^ My interpretation of point 2 is that a horse currently 5-yo can run in bumpers from January 1st 2024 until the last day of the 2023/24 jumps season.

In the case of Aurora Vega, Gowran Park will be her third run so the option of running in the Champion Bumper is open but could not run until the Festival if she runs on Friday.
 
Have just looked at previous Bumper winners and was surprised to see that 10 have won this century having had their debut Bumper runs between March and June the previous year including this year's winner ADTS.

We may have already seen the 2024 winner !
 
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Lobos said:
Have just looked at previous Bumper winners and was surprised to see that 10 have won this century having had their debut Bumper runs between March and June the previous year including this year's winner ADTS.

We may have already seen the 2024 winner !
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I wonder who you've got in mind :cower:

That is a surprising stat though.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I'm astonished by that stat to be honest!
Lobos - are you sure you didn't have too much rum when checking the data?
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I was astonished too. Not had a drop. Maybe that's the problem :redface-new:

Someone else double check for me.
 
I haven't time at the moment to check what I'm about to say, but I used to hold and use this stat to try and unearth the Champion Bumper winner. However, and I stand to be corrected, A Dream To Share is the first horse for some time to meet the stat, and it had previously gone cold which is why I dropped it.
 
Spectre said:
I haven't time at the moment to check what I'm about to say, but I used to hold and use this stat to try and unearth the Champion Bumper winner. However, and I stand to be corrected, A Dream To Share is the first horse for some time to meet the stat, and it had previously gone cold which is why I dropped it.
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Yes I went back 11 years, and in that time there were 3. ADTS (2023), Moon Racer (2015), Silver Concorde (2014).
 
Lobos said:
Have just looked at previous Bumper winners and was surprised to see that 10 have won this century having had their debut Bumper runs between March and June the previous year including this year's winner ADTS.

We may have already seen the 2024 winner !
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Can’t of me West Country Cousin. Qualimita hasn’t run under rules
 
Exar Essay said:
Yes I went back 11 years, and in that time there were 3. ADTS (2023), Moon Racer (2015), Silver Concorde (2014).
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You missed Fayonagh 2017 who was the last before this year. So 4 in the last 10 runnings.
 
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Exar Essay said:
So I did. She was the only one I actually knew without checking too! Doh
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She won it for Gordon but her early debut was for another trainer. 40% in the last 10 runnings is not to be sniffed at.
 
RR on Lossiemouth....

“She’s a lovely horse and we won’t campaign her the same way we did with Vauban as it’s just too hard for them coming out of juvenile company,” the Champion Hurdle-winning owner said. “We think she is a very special filly.
“We think she is a Champion Hurdle filly, but I’d say we’ll go down the Mares’ Hurdle route this year and then the Champion Hurdle the season after.

“She is a top-class filly, maybe one of the best I have owned, and remember I have had Annie Power and Benie Des Dieux."

High praise indeed.
 
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It's high praise alright but RR isn't the type to take too seriously, in my opinion.

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Benjy23 said:
It's high praise alright but RR isn't the type to take too seriously, in my opinion.

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In this instance it was clear to all how far in front she was last season of her age group. Can she mix it in open company though ?
 
opatcho said:
High praise but doesn’t chance my stance - the mares looks very competitive and would rather side with the novice mares and the likes of Envoi Allen over the juves

can see this market moving a lot during the next few months
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I’m sure you mean love envoi:welcoming::welcoming:
 
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