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Fulke Walwyn KIM MUIR Challenge Cup Amateur Rider Handicap Chase

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Promised myself I wouldnt throw anymore antepost money away on glenloe but here we go again

now for his name to inevitably end up in the out for the season thread again :watermelon:
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Sigh

Promised myself I wouldnt throw anymore antepost money away on glenloe but here we go again

now for his name to inevitably end up in the out for the season thread again :watermelon:
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I'm not going to bother.
Especially antepost.
And he's going to be 11.
And can get fucked.:onthego::highly_amused:
 
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Am I missing something with Glenloe?

Only won the once in his 17 races over 5 years ago and hasn’t run 3m in over 3.5 years let alone 3m2. And is certainly not getting any younger.
I haven’t had a bet in the KM as handicaps are not really a antepost thing for me but personally I couldn’t touch him at any price even if Gavin Lynch fancies his chances :glee:

Think I’ll leave this race to the day and see where the moneys going..............

Probably on Glenloe!!
 
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Quevega said:
I'm not going to bother.
Especially antepost.
And he's going to be 11.
And can get fucked.:onthego::highly_amused:
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Id have a hissy fit if he won and I wasn't on

I'm much more interested in floueur though
 
BookieBasher said:
Am I missing something with Glenloe?

Only won the once in his 17 races over 5 years ago and hasn’t run 3m in over 3.5 years let alone 3m2. And is certainly not getting any younger.
I haven’t had a bet in the KM as handicaps are not really a antepost thing for me but personally I couldn’t touch him at any price even if Gavin Lynch fancies his chances :glee:

Think I’ll leave this race to the day and see where the moneys going..............

Probably on Glenloe!!
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Hes an injury prone plot job

Wouldve beaten delta work in the pertemps if not for walking through the last and his been running over insufficient trips ever since to protect his mark ever since (between injuries)

Think iv backed him for this race at least twice before and thrown the slips in the bin haha
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Id have a hissy fit if he won and I wasn't on

I'm much more interested in floueur though
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I just looked at the race Sunday and realised it's an amateur race anyhow, that Derek rides in most years.
Had it been a normal race it'd have been slightly more interesting.
Reckon he might even win on Sunday.
 
Quevega said:
I just looked at the race Sunday and realised it's an amateur race anyhow, that Derek rides in most years.
Had it been a normal race it'd have been slightly more interesting.
Reckon he might even win on Sunday.
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Don't say that

You'll make me back him on Sunday now too
 
First of all I see Entoucas mentioned in the Grand Annual thread the other day and now I am seeing Glenloe. Are there any other horses in the markets that are likely to trigger betting PTSD for me? :biggrin-new:
 
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Lbur4288 said:
First of all I see Entoucas mentioned in the Grand Annual thread the other day and now I am seeing Glenloe. Are there any other horses in the markets that are likely to trigger betting PTSD for me? :biggrin-new:
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Is Entoucas still alive ??
 
Lbur4288 said:
I've heard nothing to say otherwise although he's very much alive in my head...jumping the last in the Grand Annual :glee:
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Fucker cost our syndicate a monster sum !!
 
Quevega said:
I just looked at the race Sunday and realised it's an amateur race anyhow, that Derek rides in most years.
Had it been a normal race it'd have been slightly more interesting.
Reckon he might even win on Sunday.
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WH have opened with 11/8. Thought there might at least be some 9/4.
But it's not surprising. It's a very poor race.

Glenloe 129
Alpha des Obeaux 123 (7lb claimer from 130)
122
Rest of the 9 are sub 120 horses

His 135 UK rating would be enough to get into most runnings of the Kim Muir. And probably will again.
But I don't think Elliott will be taken any chances given how many times they've missed out on a festival punt with him.
So i think they'd want to go up a couple of pounds to be assured.

Given the ratings of the others in the race, he can without getting a big hike in the ratings.
Anything but and his mark unlikely to go up.
So I don't think there will be a reason for him not to win.
Which hasn't been the case for the last 7 runs / 4 years where the handbrake has been on the whole time over short trips.
He should and probably does win on Sunday for me. At least if he's going to be serious proposition in this race come March.
 
Sorry to disappoint Gavin Lynch and everyone else that might have backed Glenloe but he's not winning this as a 10 year old. We need preferably a 7 possibly 8 year old within the 137-142 range who hasn't won on its last run before the festival. Keep looking. :eagerness:
 
Lobos said:
Sorry to disappoint Gavin Lynch and everyone else that might have backed Glenloe but he's not winning this as a 10 year old. We need preferably a 7 possibly 8 year old within the 137-142 range who hasn't won on its last run before the festival. Keep looking. :eagerness:
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Whilst 15 from the last 16 have been aged between 7 to 9, eight 10 year olds have won this, four 11 year olds have won this, and The Package won at 12 years old, so concluding he's not winning at the age of 11 (not 10) seems premature, especially for a relatively lightly raced horse in the right yard for a race like this.
 
I never get this relatively lightly raced argument with older horses. It's a myth. I've ran 1 Marathon in my time several years back but if I tried again now my body wouldn't be up to it. 15 out of last 16 9 or under is plenty good enough for me to discount the old man.:eagerness:
 
Lobos said:
I never get this relatively lightly raced argument with older horses. It's a myth. I've ran 1 Marathon in my time several years back but if I tried again now my body wouldn't be up to it. 15 out of last 16 9 or under is plenty good enough for me to discount the old man.:eagerness:
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It's not a myth. Racing is the ultimate physical test which places stress on a horses body and contributes to degenerative changes throughout the body. Injuries and niggles, which are more frequently obtained through racing, regularly leave a legacy of pain and inflammation, so a lightly raced older horse is less likely to have these deficits

A woeful but very funny analogy :highly_amused:
 
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Lobos said:
Sorry to disappoint Gavin Lynch and everyone else that might have backed Glenloe but he's not winning this as a 10 year old:
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I’d be siding more with this view on Glenloe.
This year will probably be a year or two too late for him at 11 years old. Annoying having fancied him heavily for the race in both 2019 and 2020.

The Package won the race as a twelve year old but where as you’re having to go back 4 years and that Delta Work 2nd over hurdles with Glenloe (albeit injury has restricted his chances), The Package was a multiple placed festival horse and just a year before placed 3rd off a higher mark in the Ultima at 11, up against Holywell who in the same year The Package was winning the KM, was coming 4th in a Gold Cup off 163.

I still couldn’t dismiss him just on age though. No doubt Elliott will line up a few for the race. With a decent one for Jamie Codd. And ones with a younger and more progressive profile. But it’s another race he excels at with 3 wins and a 3rd in the last 6 years. Add in the potential booking of O’Connor who has a 1st and a 2nd in that same period. You have to take the horse seriously and be wary imo if Elliott is targeting him here.

But I couldn’t touch him without NRNB.
and I’ll except he’s going to be a very short price in all likelihood with that concession
 
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jono said:
I’d be siding more with this view on Glenloe.
This year will probably be a year or two too late for him at 11 years old. Annoying having fancied him heavily for the race in both 2019 and 2020.

The Package won the race as a twelve year old but where as you’re having to go back 4 years and that Delta Work 2nd over hurdles with Glenloe (albeit injury has restricted his chances), The Package was a multiple placed festival horse and just a year before placed 3rd off a higher mark in the Ultima at 11, up against Holywell who in the same year The Package was winning the KM, was coming 4th in a Gold Cup off 163.

I still couldn’t dismiss him just on age though. No doubt Elliott will line up a few for the race. With a decent one for Jamie Codd. And ones with a younger and more progressive profile. But it’s another race he excels at with 3 wins and a 3rd in the last 6 years. Add in the potential booking of O’Connor who has a 1st and a 2nd in that same period. You have to take the horse seriously and be wary imo if Elliott is targeting him here.

But I couldn’t touch him without NRNB.
and I’ll except he’s going to be a very short price in all likelihood with that concession
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This is my same thoughts.
Which I summed up with an expletive.
But meant this.:encouragement:
 
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His enforced layoff doesn’t seem to have improved his jumping either. Just saying.
 
….Glenloe back out to 20-1 after that defeat.
 
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