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Equine Flu Outbreak

FaugheenTheMachine said:
It would take a brave bookie to settle Cheltenham antepost bets as losers if the festival was cancelled
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Yes it would. However what will they do with all the thousands if not millions of free bets that have been placed?
 
Sirbetalot said:
I think all antipost bets are not voided but classed as losers unless the meeting is rescheduled , I hope your right but I think I read that somewhere once, different rules for Antipost bets,, but you never know the bookies mite be kind as this has never happened in the UK before....
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Of course they're voided. Bets stand if the race is postponed to a later date.
 
Sorry I think I am wrong...

If a race is postponed but then takes place at the same track at a later date then all ante-post bets will stand. However, unless advertised differently ante-post bets will be declared void in the following circumstances:

the race is abandoned and does not take place at a later date at the same track;
the race is declared void;
the race is moved to a different track;
the selection is balloted out;
the selection was ineligible for the race at the time the bet was struck. For example, if after all entry stages have been closed, a bet has been struck on a runner who is not in the list of entries then the bet will be considered void;
it is not possible for the selection to win at the time the bet was struck, for example the horse is dead;
the ante-post bet is offered "with a run" which is a specific ante-post bet where stakes are not lost on the non-running horse.
 
Nortons who said:
I think you will find that all bets would be voided unless the races are rescheduled with the same current entries. Or are you wanting the insurance to hedge the loss of your winnings? If so I can sympathise because I'm sitting on a healthy green book for the Gold Cup which would come to nothing. The main thing is the horses are treated quickly as otherwise this could be devastating to the industry.
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Yeah bets will be voided but my hotel and train tickets won't be:devilish:
 
Sirbetalot said:
I think all antipost bets are not voided but classed as losers unless the meeting is rescheduled , I hope your right but I think I read that somewhere once, different rules for Antipost bets,, but you never know the bookies mite be kind as this has never happened in the UK before....
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It has happened back in 2001 with the foot & mouth outbreak. I was punting ante-post back then, albeit you could get proper prices. All of my ante-post book was voided and I ended up getting returns on horses I’d already written off through injury etc. Not sure whether the rules have changed since but as said, it would be a brave bookie to do anything else.
 
Terrible this, hopes and prayers that all is sorted soon
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Yeah bets will be voided but my hotel and train tickets won't be:devilish:
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:disgust: I know feels like Blue Thursday at the minute. Something happening on 31 March that might make rescheduling difficult too.
 
With all the delayed runners due to the weather and now we see this which could be a fair few racing days cancelled, this could make this festival very interesting !

Not that I’m a huge follower of trends but most have the potential to be ignored this year
 
The worse thing for Antipost backers, is that only a few yards is affected so them yards will be quarantined, fingers crossed its none of the big boys or any yard for that matter..
 
Although very serious and contagious, it sounds like it's not deadly which is the important thing first and foremost. Horses in serious cases can take months to recover though.

You'd imagine today's cancellation isn't scratching the surface and it's understandably merely buying the BHA some time to assess. Imagine they'll have to draw a line through this weekend at the very least, anf into next week as a bare minimum.

Shocked racing in Ireland takes place but that hopefully is a good sign. You'd imagine Elliott would have been notified earlier than the announcement and was able to quarantine his horses before integrating back into his yard.

I'm fearing the worst though...
 
jono said:
Although very serious and contagious, it sounds like it's not deadly which is the important thing first and foremost. Horses in serious cases can take months to recover though.

You'd imagine today's cancellation isn't scratching the surface and it's understandably merely buying the BHA some time to assess. Imagine they'll have to draw a line through this weekend at the very least, anf into next week as a bare minimum.

Shocked racing in Ireland takes place but that hopefully is a good sign. You'd imagine Elliott would have been notified earlier than the announcement and was able to quarantine his horses before integrating back into his yard.

I'm fearing the worst though...
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Racing in Ireland can probably continue if the Elliott runners were quarantined although the bit about humans in press release also an issue ? If there are no new cases in next say 10 days Id be hopeful but worrying that vaccinated horses are getting infected.
 
The cases in Australia, were they also vaccinated horses catching it?
 
Confirmed that GE’s Ayr runners were in transit when the news broke so now in quarantine and explains why racing goes ahead there today...a small piece of good news. Apparently a BHA update this morning
 
BHA latest update says they will decide tonight if racing can take place tomorrow; need to see what’s happening after more tests have taken place etc
 
boopa said:
They didn't vaccinate over there.
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Appreciate they have been condemned for short givings but my main hope was it means that another vaccination may have been worked on as this strain is clearly able to fight past the current one
 
n a further statement on Thursday they said: "Racing was shut down today as a precautionary measure to restrict the movement of thoroughbred race horses and prevent any further spread of the virus. This is a standard contingency in the event of an infectious disease affecting our horses. It was essential that racing be stood down today and controls on movements of horses be put in place in order to attempt to control the spread of the disease, and the decision was taken swiftly last night that this course of action should be taken, once the extent of the issue was known. The BHA consulted with its veterinary committee before making this decision.

"We will endeavour to issue regular information but we are still in the early stages of assessing the scale and severity of the outbreak. We are working quickly to identify the extent of the infection and will have more information when further test results are returned today. The results from those tests will not be known until this evening. Following these results being known a call will be convened to discuss the implications and a decision will then be made as to the impact on racing in the coming days.

"We are aware that people want to know the situation as regards racing tomorrow and this weekend and we will seek to provide more clarity as soon as we are able. It is likely that any definitive decisions on whether racing can take place tomorrow will be taken later this evening.

"We are contacting trainers of all yards which might conceivably have had contact with horses from the affected yard in order to advise them on biosecurity measures and to ask them not to move horses. We are also issuing guidance to the wider population of trainers. We are working closely with the National Trainers Federation to share this information and ensure that trainers are kept as informed as possible. Trainers are being sent a contact number should they have further questions, and they are advised to contact their vets with any further concerns.

"Anyone visiting a racing yard should exercise appropriate caution and check with a trainer before visiting, and trainers are advised to limit where possible the movement of people to and from their yard. There is a Code of Practice for dealing with infectious diseases on the website of the National Trainers Federation.

"All British race horses are vaccinated against equine influenza. However this strain has affected vaccinated horses. The disease may be serious in unvaccinated horses, although symptoms in vaccinated horses are usually mild and transient. Symptoms may include a raised temperature, a cough and nasal discharge. It is highly contagious. Humans are not at risk from the virus though can be transmitters of the virus.

"The situation here is not the same as the incident in Australia in 2007. Australian thoroughbreds are not vaccinated against influenza, while British thoroughbreds are, as the virus is endemic in the UK. Therefore an important barrier is in place to prevent the same situation occurring here. However, as we have seen in Europe, the virus has affected vaccinated horses in this case. The vaccine should however help reduce to a certain extent the effect and spread of the disease in thoroughbreds.

"This is a wider horse health issue which is not confined to horseracing. Unlike thoroughbreds, the wider horse population in Britain is not vaccinated against equine flu. Whilst the BHA is not specifically responsible for non-race-horses, the general advice to owners would be to contact your vet if you have concerns"

Davy and Gordon also in quarantine.:devilish:
 
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