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County Hurdle 2019

Kevloaf said:
I can't believe I'm doing this


1 pt e/w - 25/1 NRNB

Western Ryder.

Sorry logic.



Hear me out though:

Cheltenham form:

51653

5th in the Champion bumper - respectable.
1st beating Lalor and Summerville Boy over hurdles
6th in the Supreme - weak but respectable as he got hampered when making his move 2 out
5th in the Greatwood - respectable, although that was off 145
3rd in the International - respectable, behind Brain Power and ahead of WHAD, VDF

Now he's not well in, off 150.

but he has been running well, the last 3 runs are 3,3,3 which includes being ahead of Grancy Sancy?

That does include a bit of cherry picking, and I can easily pic kholes too.... but I feel like he'll (cliche) run his race and be around the places... I'm adding at 25/1 e/w - and then looking for ones to beat him.
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I used a free tenner on him, just as a FML if he wins and I get nothing out of it :highly_amused:
 
barizan said:
He's got a good chance and 25/1 is a knocking ew bet.
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You'll get on fine here ;)

Although...no introduction...

How long you been into racing?
Punting style?
Favourite horse?
 
The Sandown Imperial Cup (on Saturday) / County Hurdle double is a lofty target for bonus hunters, with few successes but I still look each year to see whether any horses are likely candidates. There are 3 which caught my eye, 2 of which are longer priced in the County Hurdle market.

# Bennys Bridge which won cosily enough LTO over the County CD. Around 16s NRNB or 25s with WH plus enhanced odds. However hes 82nd on the CH entry list so would most likely struggle to get in even with a penalty.

# Malaya which has featured in this thread. Only cheltenham entry and available at 50s NRNB with Coral. PN knows how to win the County Hurdle but it depends whether the main target is the Imperial Cup on Saturday.

# Totterdown, Also available with Coral NRNB at a reasonable price of 40s. Ran OK LTO under a much bigger weight than would get here. Also has CH as only Cheltenham entry and interestingly has a high RPR rating of 170.

I have backed all 3 NRNB, since if they run poorly on Saturday unlikely to then run in the CH but if any of them wins their price will contract significantly.
 
Kevloaf said:
I can't believe I'm doing this


1 pt e/w - 25/1 NRNB

Western Ryder.

Sorry logic.



Hear me out though:

Cheltenham form:

51653

5th in the Champion bumper - respectable.
1st beating Lalor and Summerville Boy over hurdles
6th in the Supreme - weak but respectable as he got hampered when making his move 2 out
5th in the Greatwood - respectable, although that was off 145
3rd in the International - respectable, behind Brain Power and ahead of WHAD, VDF

Now he's not well in, off 150.

but he has been running well, the last 3 runs are 3,3,3 which includes being ahead of Grancy Sancy?

That does include a bit of cherry picking, and I can easily pic kholes too.... but I feel like he'll (cliche) run his race and be around the places... I'm adding at 25/1 e/w - and then looking for ones to beat him.
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He’s been carrying my money all season but I think he’s going to need everything to fall right, namely a strong gallop (which he should get) and soft ground (which it might not be enough)
 
Nortons who said:
The Sandown Imperial Cup (on Saturday) / County Hurdle double is a lofty target for bonus hunters, with few successes but I still look each year to see whether any horses are likely candidates. There are 3 which caught my eye, 2 of which are longer priced in the County Hurdle market.

# Bennys Bridge which won cosily enough LTO over the County CD. Around 16s NRNB or 25s with WH plus enhanced odds. However hes 82nd on the CH entry list so would most likely struggle to get in even with a penalty.

# Malaya which has featured in this thread. Only cheltenham entry and available at 50s NRNB with Coral. PN knows how to win the County Hurdle but it depends whether the main target is the Imperial Cup on Saturday.

# Totterdown, Also available with Coral NRNB at a reasonable price of 40s. Ran OK LTO under a much bigger weight than would get here. Also has CH as only Cheltenham entry and interestingly has a high RPR rating of 170.

I have backed all 3 NRNB, since if they run poorly on Saturday unlikely to then run in the CH but if any of them wins their price will contract significantly.
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Missed dream du grand val
Much more likely and far less exposed
 
Kevloaf said:
I can't believe I'm doing this


1 pt e/w - 25/1 NRNB

Western Ryder.

Sorry logic.



Hear me out though:

Cheltenham form:

51653

5th in the Champion bumper - respectable.
1st beating Lalor and Summerville Boy over hurdles
6th in the Supreme - weak but respectable as he got hampered when making his move 2 out
5th in the Greatwood - respectable, although that was off 145
3rd in the International - respectable, behind Brain Power and ahead of WHAD, VDF

Now he's not well in, off 150.

but he has been running well, the last 3 runs are 3,3,3 which includes being ahead of Grancy Sancy?

That does include a bit of cherry picking, and I can easily pic kholes too.... but I feel like he'll (cliche) run his race and be around the places... I'm adding at 25/1 e/w - and then looking for ones to beat him.
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Worst bet I’ve seen you post
Will probably win
 
Kevloaf said:
I can't believe I'm doing this


1 pt e/w - 25/1 NRNB

Western Ryder.

Sorry logic.



Hear me out though:

Cheltenham form:

51653

5th in the Champion bumper - respectable.
1st beating Lalor and Summerville Boy over hurdles
6th in the Supreme - weak but respectable as he got hampered when making his move 2 out
5th in the Greatwood - respectable, although that was off 145
3rd in the International - respectable, behind Brain Power and ahead of WHAD, VDF

Now he's not well in, off 150.

but he has been running well, the last 3 runs are 3,3,3 which includes being ahead of Grancy Sancy?

That does include a bit of cherry picking, and I can easily pic kholes too.... but I feel like he'll (cliche) run his race and be around the places... I'm adding at 25/1 e/w - and then looking for ones to beat him.
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Kev,are you ok ?
Getting worried about you 😀
 
Kevloaf said:
I can't believe I'm doing this


1 pt e/w - 25/1 NRNB

Western Ryder.

Sorry logic.



Hear me out though:

Cheltenham form:

51653

5th in the Champion bumper - respectable.
1st beating Lalor and Summerville Boy over hurdles
6th in the Supreme - weak but respectable as he got hampered when making his move 2 out
5th in the Greatwood - respectable, although that was off 145
3rd in the International - respectable, behind Brain Power and ahead of WHAD, VDF

Now he's not well in, off 150.

but he has been running well, the last 3 runs are 3,3,3 which includes being ahead of Grancy Sancy?

That does include a bit of cherry picking, and I can easily pic kholes too.... but I feel like he'll (cliche) run his race and be around the places... I'm adding at 25/1 e/w - and then looking for ones to beat him.
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Minella Rocco for the Ultima, and now this????:devilish:
 
I've already resigned myself to backing him when someone at work came up to me and said "is our boy Western Ryder running again this year?"
 
Western Ryder syndrome
“ I’m not backing it - can’t let it go unbacked, i’ll have an interest “
:-)))))
 
I really need to sit down and look at this race properly :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
I can't believe I'm doing this


1 pt e/w - 25/1 NRNB

Western Ryder.

Sorry logic.



Hear me out though:

Cheltenham form:

51653

5th in the Champion bumper - respectable.
1st beating Lalor and Summerville Boy over hurdles
6th in the Supreme - weak but respectable as he got hampered when making his move 2 out
5th in the Greatwood - respectable, although that was off 145
3rd in the International - respectable, behind Brain Power and ahead of WHAD, VDF

Now he's not well in, off 150.

but he has been running well, the last 3 runs are 3,3,3 which includes being ahead of Grancy Sancy?

That does include a bit of cherry picking, and I can easily pic kholes too.... but I feel like he'll (cliche) run his race and be around the places... I'm adding at 25/1 e/w - and then looking for ones to beat him.
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On the plus side you are backing a good horse who will be trying, he gets on well with Cheltenham, will run his race on any ground, has Dickie booked, and is as genuine as they come, won't stop trying.
I can also confirm him to be very well and a big run is expected.

However, they had an opportunity to do what many Irish trainers do so well (and no doubt a few UK trainers before anyone screams racist at me) by running the horse over 3m and getting his mark down.
The County is invariably won by horses 7lb+ ahead of the 'capper and Western Ryder is not that horse.
Greatrex needs shooting, better planning and WR could have gone here off 143 and 10st 9lb and probably gagged up.
The annoying thing is he was told this by a few and ignored them, my guess is he'll finish 6th beaten about 6l...
 
Istabraq said:
On the plus side you are backing a good horse who will be trying, he gets on well with Cheltenham, will run his race on any ground, has Dickie booked, and is as genuine as they come, won't stop trying.
I can also confirm him to be very well and a big run is expected.

However, they had an opportunity to do what many Irish trainers do so well (and no doubt a few UK trainers before anyone screams racist at me) by running the horse over 3m and getting his mark down.
The County is invariably won by horses 7lb+ ahead of the 'capper and Western Ryder is not that horse.
Greatrex needs shooting, better planning and WR could have gone here off 143 and 10st 9lb and probably gagged up.
The annoying thing is he was told this by a few and ignored them, my guess is he'll finish 6th beaten about 6l...
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That's bang on point, Mr Istabraq.
but stranger things have happened.
 
Istabraq said:
On the plus side you are backing a good horse who will be trying, he gets on well with Cheltenham, will run his race on any ground, has Dickie booked, and is as genuine as they come, won't stop trying.
I can also confirm him to be very well and a big run is expected.

However, they had an opportunity to do what many Irish trainers do so well (and no doubt a few UK trainers before anyone screams racist at me) by running the horse over 3m and getting his mark down.
The County is invariably won by horses 7lb+ ahead of the 'capper and Western Ryder is not that horse.
Greatrex needs shooting, better planning and WR could have gone here off 143 and 10st 9lb and probably gagged up.
The annoying thing is he was told this by a few and ignored them, my guess is he'll finish 6th beaten about 6l...
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Nobody with disagree with any of that for sure. I've backed at 33/1 and 25/1 each way which was very fair. He has a small squeak of winning but the place cash will do me. I don't rate Greatex as a trainer at all mind.
 
Yeah, very good point Ista, and I know you know people that'd know! :highly_amused:


Ultimately, WR owes me money back from that bumper that you forced the entire forum to get behind :p
 
Looking at recent winners of this race:
Mohaayed 139, Superb Story 138, Wicklow Brave 138, Lac Fontana 139, Ted Veale 134, I am paying particular attention to horses around the high 130s but nothing immediately jumps out to me. I have backed Eclair De Beaufeu, rated 136, but with GE not confident he will get in this year, I wondered if anyone had any fancies for any horses rated high 130s? I appreciate that for every trend there is an Arctic Fire (158), and I have also backed Wonder Laish, but just wondering if anyone has any fancies that fit this trend?
 
Kevloaf said:
Ultimately, WR owes me money back from that bumper that you forced the entire forum to get behind :p
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Amen Kev!

Joking Ista, he's a cliff horse for me now though
 
....an age ago I backed Leoncavallo for this @ 50-1, not heard anybody else mention it but it appears to have been backed (25-1 nrnb with Sky). The Betfair Hurdle and County was Dr Newland’s long-term plan before the flu interrupted preparations. An interesting one.
 
This race could really get cut up...

Wonder laish could be a NR (will hill preview not me)
Vision D'honneur supreme maybe
Uradel martin pipe maybe
Monsieur Lecoq running tomorrow
Dream Du Grand Val running tomorrow

thats the 1st five in the betting that could be pulled, hope they decide to run whiskey sour again here as I think he would have a great chance and will be heavy backed for it.. was a good 3rd last year & the ground should be a bit better.. But knowing my luck he will go to the coral cup, but personally I think 2m 1f would suit him better than 2m 5f..
 
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