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Chelters 2016 Antepost bets

I think I will have tonight to find 1 more for the Mullins Goliath. I feel after tomorrow Mins price is going to plummet, looks like they are expecting a wide margin win.
Any ideas on the final Mullins horse guys. Wanted to put in Annie, but who knows what's going on there.

JM, would you be better not to try find another Mullins winner and go for something like Thistlecrack or Josies Order instead?

One of Mullins shorties will fail and do the bookies a favour.
 
Have you heard anything about Limini?

Real or Not ?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Regarding Limini from the people involved with the horse <a href="https://t.co/zsBJKuV6Xt">pic.twitter.com/zsBJKuV6Xt</a></p>— Graham Woods (@grahamwoods19) <a href="https://twitter.com/grahamwoods19/status/685525558122426368">January 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Real or Not ?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Regarding Limini from the people involved with the horse <a href="https://t.co/zsBJKuV6Xt">pic.twitter.com/zsBJKuV6Xt</a></p>— Graham Woods (@grahamwoods19) <a href="https://twitter.com/grahamwoods19/status/685525558122426368">January 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Yeah I saw that as well. Also saw a photo of Limini on the gallops but don't know when photo was taken.
 
JM, would you be better not to try find another Mullins winner and go for something like Thistlecrack or Josies Order instead?

One of Mullins shorties will fail and do the bookies a favour.

I could do that as well and I have to say No More Heroes has been jumping out at me.
 
I could do that as well and I have to say No More Heroes has been jumping out at me.

NMH is a great shout.:encouragement:

I didn't make much of Limini's run. She was receiving over a stone from the second horse and only just got up. I maybe wrong about her but its just my opinion. :)
 
I thought Fulham rd was a decent shout at the odds, haven't heard about a problem myself but Iain has obviously heard something. Last I heard he was a decent tool and given the Mullins record in the bumper 14/1 looks huge, but he probably won't win with a fractured leg, but I would have expected that to be a little more public
 
but he probably won't win with a fractured leg

Made me laugh that.

Best thing to do is transfer the horse to Hendos, get him to give several interviews quoting the injury and that he's being readied for a 2017 campaign then watch the exchanges get smashed and the horse win 5l in second gear...
 
Made me laugh that.

Best thing to do is transfer the horse to Hendos, get him to give several interviews quoting the injury and that he's being readied for a 2017 campaign then watch the exchanges get smashed and the horse win 5l in second gear...

ye that sounds about right, I can't function at the mo, I've put myself on the outside of too much Polish lager, Tyskie to be exact, beautiful stuff but it don't half have a kick
 
Ok so Goliath is on
Vautour- Gold cUp
Min- Supreme
No More Heroes- RSA
Shaneshill- JLT
UP for Review- Albert Bartlett
Douvan- Arkle
Un De Sceaux- Champion Chase
Faugheen- Champion Hurdle

20p per line pays £40000 and change.
 
Also did a 2nd one with some better odds

Vautour
Min
Bellshill
No more heroes
Shaneshill
Limini (gonna take a shot)
Up for review and Un De Sceaux

20p per line pays over £240k
 
No law against putting a few more on as the picture clears Jonny, cover your options and change things around on the run up to the fez, choose 2 or 3 that you want to keep on the right side of then stick others in with them to make a portfolio of bets
 
No law against putting a few more on as the picture clears Jonny, cover your options and change things around on the run up to the fez, choose 2 or 3 that you want to keep on the right side of then stick others in with them to make a portfolio of bets

Completely agree MMG, I'm only warming up lol
 
The latest horse I've started to put in multiples is Blue Hell in the county. Supposedly goes straight for the race after winning impressively lto. The form of the race is looking good with 2 next time out winners from 3 runners. The runner up Diamond King runs this afternoon. Obviously unsure what our handicapper will make of it but he should get a mark in the low 140's.

It's not everyone's cup of tea getting involved with the handicaps this early but I can't help myself!!
 
Also did a 2nd one with some better odds

Vautour
Min
Bellshill
No more heroes
Shaneshill
Limini (gonna take a shot)
Up for review and Un De Sceaux

20p per line pays over £240k

barters hills will beat up for review but you can cash out :p
 
Dont know anything for sure but i have read that Vroum Vroum Mag is willies World hurdle horse, but will go mares if annie doesnt make the festival.

Karalee and fulham road out for the season. Limini is a mystery but the rumor was started by a idiot on twitter and the fact shes been smashed up in the betting makes me think shes ok. Cover Myska just in case though.

Backed bellshill for the neptune at nice prices although i can see it becoming a hot contest as rumored the likes of barters hill and shantou village might re route from Bartlett to neptune.

Is it me or does the JLT look weak? Shaneshill or sizing john?

Im trying to figure out who goes where regarding RSA and National Hunt. So far im thinking Pont Alexandre goes RSA and willie described him as a coneygree type so i have backed him. Black hercules i think will be patricks ride in the national hunt!
 
Guy on oddschecker had this on Mullins runners

Andy Holding | Wednesday 6th January 2016 / 13:30
Race-by-race guide to Willie Mullins' Cheltenham Fesival team

Having enjoyed a record-breaking Cheltenham Festival last year with eight winners and the monopolies commission threatening to intervene, we take a look at the powerhouse that is Willie Mullins and some of the likely targets for his stars at this seasons four-day jamboree.

DAY ONE

SUPREME NOVICES’ HURDLE
MIN – Looks like being the main stable representative at this stage based on the ante-post market, although will need to do more on his next assignment in the Moscow Flyer Hurdle to justify such skinny odds than he did by landing a modest Punchestown maiden hurdle in a slow time.

YORKHILL – Showed plenty of speed to land the Tolworth at Sandown last time, but the fact that he was equally impressive over 2m 4f the time before gives his trainer a slight dilemma with regards to his best trip. One more run before the festival – likely to be in the Deloitte Hurdle at Leopardstown – will shed further light.

ARKLE
DOUVAN – Last season’s champion novice hurdler has made a seamless switch to fences and he already looks untouchable in this discipline based on his two victories so far to date. Clocked an amazing time for a novice when beating three smart rivals at Leopardstown over Christmas and given that he’s likely to scare most of the opposition off, odds of 8/11 look generous even with two months to go.


CHAMPION HURDLE
FAUGHEEN – Although surprisingly lost his unbeaten record to stable mate Nichols Canyon in the Morgiana on his seasonal return, last year’s Champion still remains a warm order to retain his crown and still looks the one to beat based on his scintillating display when back on track in the Christmas Hurdle.

NICHOLS CANYON – Seemed to beat Faugheen on merit in the Morgiana and shown plenty of grit and determination when overcoming a persistent challenge from Identity Thief last time out. A run in the Irish Champion should set this game, little warrior up for a re-match with his stable mate.
ARCTIC FIRE – Despite blowing out when experimenting with 3m last time, connections insist that he will still be heading down the 2m route and bid to try and go one place better than last year.

MARES’ HURDLE
ANNIE POWER – Almost certain to come here in a bid to atone for the last-flight fall in last year’s renewal.

VROUM VROUM MAG – Totally dominant in most mares’ chase races on home soil and unlikely to run here if Annie Power (same ownership) turns up in one piece.

MORNING RUN – Very smart mare but ran as though not quite seeing out the trip at Leopardstown recently, so there has to be a slight question mark over her participation.

NH CHASE
PONT ALEXANDRE – As Willie Mullins tends to run his potential Gold Cup prospects for next season in the RSA, it would be a surprise if this classy individual lines up here.

BLACK HERCULES – Jumped immaculately when easily accounting for stable mate Sambremont at Navan on chase debut, but would seem more of a RSA-type based on his overall profile at this stage.

SAMBREMONT – Although well beaten by Black Hercules on chase debut, 2m 4f that day would have been well short of his best and shapes like the type that will be well suited by extreme distances. Will get an entry in this race.

KILLULTAGH VIC – Last year’s Martin Pipe Hurdle hero made a bright start to his chase career with a smooth victory at Fairyhouse – jumping well and posting a smart speed figure. Showed the pace to win over 2m that day and accounted for Thistlecrack over 3m last season, so unlikely to down this route with the more likely target being the RSA.

ROI DES FRANCS – Well backed to win last season’s Martin Pipe Hurdle but found himself short of speed over the 2m 5f trip and looks more of a stayer based on his two runs so far over fences. Represents connections that like to have runners in this event and looks a likely type for this sort of test at this stage.

DAY TWO

NEPTUNE NOVICES' HURDLE
BELLSHILL – Not short of pace - as his run in last season’s Aintree bumper proves - but has been impressive on both his two starts over hurdles so far this term and looks the yard’s chief 2m 4f novice on all known form.

YORKHILL – Runs in same ownership as Bellshill so it’s unlikely the pair will clash here.

LONG DOG – Well placed to win two Grade 1’s, but whether he’s in the same class as Bellshill is open to debate and the ground will be the determining factor which race connections decide, if at all.

THOMAS HOBSON – Clocked a smart time when making all the running at Punchestown on latest start (ran last circuit 2.8 seconds faster than Min on same card), but whether he jumps well enough to win a Grade 1 event is open to question and yard haven’t really talked him up much as a Cheltenham horse either.

RSA CHASE
PONT ALEXANDRE – Looked good when making a winning comeback after two years off the track at Punchestown recently and this former Grade 1 winner over hurdles is likely to end up the stable’s number one choice for this contest with a trouble-free passage to the festival.

QUEEN MOTHER CHAMPION CHASE
UN DE SCEAUX – Remains on target for this prize despite an untimely blip at Leopardstown on his seasonal reappearance but bookmakers will be fully aware he’s now tipped up twice in six starts over fences and he’s one the old enemy will want and try and get.

CHAMPION BUMPER
16/1 the field and with nothing that has given us the ‘wow’ factor as of yet, the master trainer will no doubt be unleashing some of his more likely types in the next month or so.

DAY THREE

JLT NOVES' CHASE
Fresh off unleashing Vautour to scintillating effect in last season’s renewal, all eyes will be focusing on SHANESHILL delivering the goods for the Co Carlow handler, particularly as this race is now a Grade 1 affair. Although likely to get multiple entries, this seems the logical port of call for the son of King’s Theatre and other than showing a tendency to dive at one or two of his fences, he has similar qualities to his brilliant stable companion.

RYANAIR CHASE
Despite Mullins being unequivocal in his recent Racing Post column that VAUTOUR still remains on target for the Gold Cup, if there were a vox pop involving most racing judges, the large majority would suggest this was the ideal race for last season’s brilliant JLT hero. Although he seemed to stay the 3m well enough in the King George, there has to be a slight doubt over his ability to see out the extra two furlongs over a stiff track and it will probably all boil down to what the ground is riding like during the Festival before connections make their final decision.

MARES NOVICES' HURDLE
MYSKA – This race was nominated as a likely target after winning on these shores at Taunton last time and this scopey mare is a must for the shortlist.

LIMINI – Hasn’t run since making a winning Irish debut back in May last year and doesn’t have any imminent entries so hard to know what the plans are with this potentially useful mare.

LISTEN DEAR – Wildly impressive when spread-eagling her field in a monster time figure at Down Royal back in November and would be an interesting contender should she be given the green light (same ownership as Myska)

DAY FOUR

TRIUMPH HURDLE
APPLE’S JADE – Yet to be confirmed as a definite Triumph runner, but clocked a smart time when landing a Grade 2 on her Irish debut and we will probably know more after another run in a respected trial.

LET’S DANCE – Was backed as if defeat was out of the question to make a winning Irish debut but bumped into a fair tool in the shape of Ivanovich Gorbatov – who is now a clear favourite for the Triumph. Entered in the Grade 1 at Chepstow this weekend and his performance there is likely to shed more light.

ALBERT BARTLETT NOVICES' HURDLE
UP FOR REVIEW has improved out of all recognition since stepping up in trip and rubber-stamped his name down as a likely candidate for this gruelling affair with big win on the numbers at Punchestown last time out.

GOLD CUP
DJAKADAM – All roads lead back to the Blue Riband for last year’s runner-up following his win in the John Durkan, with the Irish Hennessy the most likely prep-race on route.

DON POLI – Isn’t as easy on the eye as stable mates Vautour and Djakadam but is tough as an old boot and stay all day, so should be tailor-made for the demands of this race.

VAUTOUR – Despite all the right noises coming from the yard that this will be his race, given how well he scored over the Ryanair trip at last year’s festival, it’s a case of keeping all ante-post bets ‘with a run’ with this fella until a definitive decision is made nearer the time.
 
Cracking post Mayo. Great insight and agree with the "mystery" that is Limini. Maybe she goes straight to the festival if they hold her in such high regard but feel if not there the Myska is a player and a big one at that.
 
So where do we stick Triole D'Alene, travelled like a dream and won as he liked, impressive after more than a year off, does he enter the Gold cup picture
 
So where do we stick Triole D'Alene, travelled like a dream and won as he liked, impressive after more than a year off, does he enter the Gold cup picture

Probably blew the National there. Poor placement.
 
Probably blew the National there. Poor placement.


Ptit Zig was well beaten when he fell so if the handicapper takes his run against Vautour at face value TD will be carrying 15stone in the National