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Cheltenham Preview Nights 2018

Fortunately, Unibet finished. Some might say it never started. You would probably have got more useful information out of JP.

Only interesting thing for me was Adrian Heskin putting in a good word for Seddon at 40/1 in the bumper. It wasn't prompted and there was no real need to mention it. I liked him at Musselburgh but thought he would probably go Aintree.
 
Gordon said Dounikos RSA tonight
 
Gold Cup

RF - In Might Bite camp, and Sizing John. Thinks it's between those 2. Great run destroying Djakadam, and out too quick lto. Might Bite is the up and coming horse. To do what he did in RSA, and still get up the hill after what he did. NDB knows what's coming, and if it wasn't for that quirk he'd be shorter. NR shouldn't be good enough. Our Duke improving but still a way. KV fallen or nearly fallen twice.

PM - SJ overpriced. KV had the injury, but has an engine, and it's an ask with his jumping. Inexperienced, and a race like this. Total Recall, thinks his form with Whisper puts him a way behind, but he's improving. Djakadam is overpriced, he thinks. Race always throws up horses that place year after year. Disappointed in Leopardstown, maybe ride him diff.

PK - Wide open. MB might be most talented, but wandered around 3/4 times at Cheltenham. SJ prob the best if he comes back. Likes young improving profile, and Road To Respect has that. Bachasson at a massive price, could be very talented. Skipped round AB, but didn't get home as a 5yo. Big ask, but big price.

PM - Bachasson improved a lot, but has heart and scope to jump. He's a young protential improver.

GL - Small e/w on Bachasson @ 50/1. Might Bite is actually 9, and should be 7/7 without Kempton. New Course is 50yards further in, so won't know about gate. NDB went too soon in KG, kicking before the bend. Idles a lot. Sizing John massive chance. Can't believe Native River is 5/1, will place lay him. Needs soft ground.

PK - Road to Respect
PM - Might Bite
NM - Our Duke
RF - Might Bite
GL - Sizing John
 
Sorry if this has been posted anywhere put seen this from Gaultstats preview tonight with GE.

Ballymore - Samcro GE. Excitement in room. Couldn’t be happier. Big laid back horse. Went to Chelt sales last year. Seemed to travel ok. Trying to play it down. We let him do the talking.
 
Friday Handicaps

GL - Hunters Call in the County Hurdle. Burning Ambition for Foxhunters 5/7 and young improver. Jamie Codd riding.

RF - Burning Ambition agreed. County Hurdle - Burbank & Patricks Park in Grand Annual.

PM - Carter McKay & Sandsend in M.Pipe.

PK - Ivanovich Gorbatov in County and thinks Hunters Call form looks fantastic. Deal D'Estruval & Des Bieffes with James Bowen in M. Pipe. Diego Du Charmil in the Grand Annual

PM - Whiskey Sour is in Supreme/County couldn't enter him in eurovision. Wants good ground.

'Very Willie Answer' from panel.

Charity Bets

PK - Coo Star Sivola in Ultima
PM - Footpad in Arkle
GL - Blackbow in Bumper
RF - Know The Score in Bumper
NM - Saint Calvados in Arkle
 
Agree the Unibet one was shocking. But I did note Paddy Brennan’s enthusiasm for Poetic Rhythm in the AB. Topped up at 14/1.
 
Put this in X country thread also as positives on COC and Tiger Roll
 
GE: Apples Jde very good at home. She's been there and done it before. Best chance going over. Cause of Causes very good form. Tiger Roll been schooling well. Hard to get away from Caue of Causes. Loves the place. Jury goes for RSA. Mossbank 4 miler & Fagan.
 
GE: Apples Jde very good at home. She's been there and done it before. Best chance going over. Cause of Causes very good form. Tiger Roll been schooling well. Hard to get away from Caue of Causes. Loves the place. Jury goes for RSA. Mossbank 4 miler & Fagan.

Just to.confirm incase anyone was going to back him rsa. A genuine mistake here.
DURY DUTY goes 4 miler
 
Dreadful. Poor structure and the person leading it was useless

I would agree with that. It was more like an evening with Jessie and Nicky. You would hope De Boinville wasn't paid by the word. There was no point in him in him being there. Either he couldn't or wouldn't say much at all.

At this stage even the less clued up punters will know the basics. I am assuming we are just looking for a bit of entertainment and the odd useful snippet. Towards the end he started to ask Nicky about the Coral Cup and Martin Pipe. Trainer said virtually nothing and it was an opportunity completely wasted.
 
Hi everyone, yet another newbie to your wonderful site so this is my first post. Been looking at site for years and got some great tips etc. Felt I had to join as I totally agree with all the comments on the Unibet night- that’s 1.5 hours of my life I’ll never get back ��.
The only couple of nuggets I did glean that I don’t think have been mentioned is that Henderson did start to say that he did quite fancy Stowaway Magic in either Coral or M.Pipe as he felt he’s got it well handicapped back over hurdles. Can still get 33/1 nrnb both races (40/1 Ladbrokes price boost). Also both Henderson & NDB keen on Divine Spear in Close Brothers.
 
All comments noted re the Unibet preview but, personal opinion only, it was good to see the respect and friendship between Hendo and Jess, and the respect shown by the audience was a far cry from the Betbright rabble of last week.
Also, a few targets were confirmed that we weren’t previously aware of...
 
Haydock Preview Evening – 5th March

Panel

Gareth Leonard (MC for the Night)
Warren Greateaux
Andy Gibson
Mark Chapman
Brian Hughes Did not turn up.


Day 1

Supreme Novices

MC: Getabird 11/8, probably bigger on day. Kalashnikov has form in the book but horses that win Betfair Hurdle generally done nothing here.

WG: Has Western Ryder but main intention but at moment is Ballymore bound but will switch here if it comes up soft. Bit disappointed with him this year but does have some form at Cheltenham. Richard Johnson seems him as a Stayer and worthy EW if he does go here at 33/1. Fan of Kalashnikov.

AG: Getabird, has taken same route as previous Mullins hot pots in this but not in same league as Douvan, Vautour etc. and too short. Possibly ground dependant and should be 5/2 so would oppose at 11/8. Likes Kalashnikov on better ground. Back Claimantakinforgan ante post. Lost in Translation may go better and Scarlet Dragon was an eye-catcher in 2nd part of his last race but both could go Ballymore. Kalashnikov Rock solid for placepot.

MC: Scarlet Dragon has been nibbled at. Also Slate House EW could go well.

Arkle

AG: Footpad well supported early doors like an Altior or Douvan in previous years for this but probably too short now as they were good things at the time. Petit Mouchoir wasn’t as fluent LTO as Footpad.
St Calvados, not sure on whether he will go on the course or like the ground. There has been a difference of option between the trainer, jockey and work rider.
North Hill Harvey has EW chance without favourites market. Will pick up the pieces.

WG: Footpad been impressive. PM had interrupted preparation LTO and may improve.
Fan of St Calvados, jumps well. NHH could run into a place and Nicholls says he is 10lb better for Cheltenham. Would probably play PM

MC: would be with PM. Brain Power better right handed

Champion Hurdle.

MC: BD looks a banker but last back to back winner in this was 2005. Melon not good Enough. Yorkhill jumping an issue. Wicklow Brave for EW money.

WG: can’t see BD being beat. MTOY will be second.

Chat about what ground will be. WG thinks soft, AG thinks G/S.

AG: doesn’t like short priced favourites and wound rather Faugheen at 7/4 WO BD. MTOY EW chance and has backed Chitbello WO BD

GL: likes Wicklow Brave EW

GL mentioned that WG had Keeper Hill in the 4 miler and is available at around 14/1 although he did fall LTO. WH said he jumped well until the fall.

Mares Hurdle

WG: Has not decided if La Bague Au Roi goes here and is currently in favour 60/40 that she will go here. More to come from her and has run well on heavy and soft ground.

AG: La Bague Au Roi was 6/1 without Apple’s Jade for this and sees that as a great EW bet.

Other races on Day 1.


Ultima

AG: Has backed Singlefarmpayment weeks ago and fancies his chances although will need luck in running with his hold up style. Coo Star Sivola is very well handicapped but always seems to run far too wide.

National Hunt Chase (4 Miler)

AG: No Comment has had a very interesting campaign.

MC: Money has come for No Comment and also Elegant Escape but unsure if he goes here.

Close Brothers

De Plotting Shed well fancied and backed heavily but the panel seemed to know that Any Second Now has been laid out for this.

MC: Money definitely has come for De Plotting Shed. MC also says that no favourite has won a handicap at the Festival for 4 years.

Day 2

Ballymore

AG: Will oppose Samcro. Willie Mullins likes Next Destination but unsure if he goes here.

MC: Feels Samcro must be taken on.

WG: Felt On the Blind Side has been overlooked in this.

GL: Heard OTBS has had sore shins but WG thought he banged a joint.


RSA

MC: Feels Monalee should go here but probably will go JLT.

WG: This is gruelling race and unsure which horses will run here.

AG: Thinks Presenting Percy should go to the 4 miler but probably will run here and have a good chance. Likes Black Corton.

QMCC

WG: Thinks Altior too good and will win impressively. Says he is probably the most talented horse in training. GL agrees.

GL: Actually likes Min.
MC: Altior will win.

AG: Politilogue is now too long in the W/O Altior market and probably should be backed.

Other races on Day 2.

Cross Country

MC: Not sure why The Last Samurai is going here and likes Tiger Roll.

Fred Winter

MC: Act of Valour well backed. Some money taken for Nicholl’s Oistrakh Le Noir.

WG: Likes Espirit de Samoza here.

Champion Bumper

WG: Knows Mullins likes Hollowgraphic and Acey Milan has probably the best for of the British horses.

Brian Hughes has text AG to say he likes Cloudy Dream in the Ryanair, Look my Way in the Fred Winter, Barney Dwan in the Close Bros and his old favourite Mount Mews EW in the JLT.


Day 3

JLT

AG: Again difficult to see who runs here. If Monalee ran here he would have a great chance. Invitation Only seems to be favourite by default. Very open race with no superstar. Feels Tizzard’s will improve at the festival. Also says Bigmatre is a big prize. Terrefort confirmed here and soft ground would be a plus.

WG: Benetar beat his horse Keeper Hill on bad ground, wasn’t that impressive though but maybe a solid EW. Big fan of Terrefort and has a good chance in an open race. Finian’s Oscar would be a no no. Modus is timid horse (a soft f*cker as Nicholls says)

MC: Terrefort is unexposed and would be his choice.

Ryanair

AG: Waiting Patiently won’t run and BH has confirmed this. Really strong on Top Notch EW and is one of his biggest bets so far. Will also cover by backing Balko Des Flos and Cue Card as win only bets. Probably would back and trade Cloudy Dream in running. Frodon could spoil the party.

MC: UDS is a bit more restrained now than the tear-*rse he used to be. This race is as far as he wants tho,

AG: Expects Cue Card to be ridden aggressively.

WG: Very open race and if you can get 12s on Cue Card he is a good EW bet.

Stayers

WG: 6 or 7 could win this and very open. La Bague Au Roi would get the Mares allowance and would have a good chance if he sends her here. Says she is stronger this year and won 3m on heavy so distance not an issue. Wishes Mares was on the new course on the Thursday then his decision would be made. Also thinks Yanworth could be a big player.

AG: Agrees with WG that 6 or 7 could win it and La Bague Au Roi is of interest. Sam Spinner has the best form and if Mullins trained would be 7/4 so he is overpriced. Interesting market move on Supasundae after this last win beating Faugheen over a different trip, will he stay?
Yanworth will trade bigger in running. Penhill isn’t without a chance if fit.
L’Ami Serge will be favourite heading down the hill but doesn’t find off the bridle.

MC: Agrees that Sam Spinner should be shorter. Penhill is of interest but hasn’t been backed by the owner yet which is normally a sign. Would back L’Ami Serge EW.

Other races on Day 3

Pertemps

WG: Runs Boite but took a heavy fall LTO.

MC: Took money on Thomas Campbell & Who Dares Wins.

AG: Likes Who Dares Wins.

A man from the northern Racing Club says that Matt Woolston, head man at the jockey club, informed him that Glenloe only ran at Market Rasen last time to get a handicap mark for this race. Is this a sign?

Kim Muir

WG: Says Missed Approach will be saddled by Noel McPartland (but I cant find an entry for him).

MC: Mall Dini well backed for this but he always seems well backed at the festival.


Day 4

Triumph Hurdle

GL: Likes Redicean

MC: Thought Apple’s Shakira would be short priced favourite but now Redicean has entered the fray and now thinks Redicean will go off jolly on the day.

WG: Likes Redicean, very impressive so far and Alan King is good with juvenile hurdlers. Also likes We Have A Dream and won LTO even though wasn’t at this sharpest.

AG: Redicean impressive and likes the fact he is good from 2 out until the line although LTO he was impressive throughout the whole race. Stormy Ireland is also of interest and maybe a back to lay in running.

Albert Bartlett

MC: Popular betting race and there could be a turn up. Santini backed well by connections.

WG: Runs Mulcahys Hill who has graded form and has a squeak. Thinks Next Destination would win this if he runs.

AG: Likes Warren’s horse EW.





Gold Cup

AG: 7 or 8 have a chance here. Our Duke or Killultagh Vic EW chances. Sizing John, Might Bite and Native River all have obvious chances and rightly first 3 in the market. SJ is the one who has more to prove. Native River has had the perfect prep though. Potential to lay Might Bite in running.

MC: Fan of Native River. Road to Respect has similar to profile as SJ last year. Would just pick Road to Respect over Native River though.

WG: Might Bite will run his race and looks more straightforward this year. Was good in the King George. Also likes Native River, worried about the bounce factor though but if he runs to his form last year will be right up there. Edwulf will run conservatively and staying on for a place.

AG: Thinks Definitely Red is a good solid chaser but runs to about 150 bar one time. Total Recall probably out for a spin before an Irish Grand National effort. Minella Rocco and Djakadam massive prices.

GL: Might Bite.

Other Races on Day 4.

County Hurdle

AG: Old favourite A Hare Breath EW. Wants Charli Parcs to go here as would back him but looking like he will go Champion Hurdle which is a shame.

Foxhunters

WG: Says Paul Nicholls likes Wonderful Charm.

Grand Annual

MC: Money for Vaniteaux,

AG: Likes Vaniteaux but only negative he’s not the bravest in a finish.

WG: Also likes Vaniteaux.

NAPS

MC: Tiger Roll (X Country)

WG: Any Second Now (Close Brothers)

AG: A Hare Breath (County)

GL: Ordinary World (Grand Annual) – Ran well behind Min.

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Haydock Preview Evening – 5th March

Panel

Gareth Leonard (MC for the Night)
Warren Greateaux
Andy Gibson
Mark Chapman
Brian Hughes Did not turn up.


Day 1

Supreme Novices

MC: Getabird 11/8, probably bigger on day. Kalashnikov has form in the book but horses that win Betfair Hurdle generally done nothing here.

WG: Has Western Ryder but main intention but at moment is Ballymore bound but will switch here if it comes up soft. Bit disappointed with him this year but does have some form at Cheltenham. Richard Johnson seems him as a Stayer and worthy EW if he does go here at 33/1. Fan of Kalashnikov.

AG: Getabird, has taken same route as previous Mullins hot pots in this but not in same league as Douvan, Vautour etc. and too short. Possibly ground dependant and should be 5/2 so would oppose at 11/8. Likes Kalashnikov on better ground. Back Claimantakinforgan ante post. Lost in Translation may go better and Scarlet Dragon was an eye-catcher in 2nd part of his last race but both could go Ballymore. Kalashnikov Rock solid for placepot.

MC: Scarlet Dragon has been nibbled at. Also Slate House EW could go well.

Arkle

AG: Footpad well supported early doors like an Altior or Douvan in previous years for this but probably too short now as they were good things at the time. Petit Mouchoir wasn’t as fluent LTO as Footpad.
St Calvados, not sure on whether he will go on the course or like the ground. There has been a difference of option between the trainer, jockey and work rider.
North Hill Harvey has EW chance without favourites market. Will pick up the pieces.

WG: Footpad been impressive. PM had interrupted preparation LTO and may improve.
Fan of St Calvados, jumps well. NHH could run into a place and Nicholls says he is 10lb better for Cheltenham. Would probably play PM

MC: would be with PM. Brain Power better right handed

Champion Hurdle.

MC: BD looks a banker but last back to back winner in this was 2005. Melon not good Enough. Yorkhill jumping an issue. Wicklow Brave for EW money.

WG: can’t see BD being beat. MTOY will be second.

Chat about what ground will be. WG thinks soft, AG thinks G/S.

AG: doesn’t like short priced favourites and wound rather Faugheen at 7/4 WO BD. MTOY EW chance and has backed Chitbello WO BD

GL: likes Wicklow Brave EW

GL mentioned that WG had Keeper Hill in the 4 miler and is available at around 14/1 although he did fall LTO. WH said he jumped well until the fall.

Mares Hurdle

WG: Has not decided if La Bague Au Roi goes here and is currently in favour 60/40 that she will go here. More to come from her and has run well on heavy and soft ground.

AG: La Bague Au Roi was 6/1 without Apple’s Jade for this and sees that as a great EW bet.

Other races on Day 1.


Ultima

AG: Has backed Singlefarmpayment weeks ago and fancies his chances although will need luck in running with his hold up style. Coo Star Sivola is very well handicapped but always seems to run far too wide.

National Hunt Chase (4 Miler)

AG: No Comment has had a very interesting campaign.

MC: Money has come for No Comment and also Elegant Escape but unsure if he goes here.

Close Brothers

De Plotting Shed well fancied and backed heavily but the panel seemed to know that Any Second Now has been laid out for this.

MC: Money definitely has come for De Plotting Shed. MC also says that no favourite has won a handicap at the Festival for 4 years.

Day 2

Ballymore

AG: Will oppose Samcro. Willie Mullins likes Next Destination but unsure if he goes here.

MC: Feels Samcro must be taken on.

WG: Felt On the Blind Side has been overlooked in this.

GL: Heard OTBS has had sore shins but WG thought he banged a joint.


RSA

MC: Feels Monalee should go here but probably will go JLT.

WG: This is gruelling race and unsure which horses will run here.

AG: Thinks Presenting Percy should go to the 4 miler but probably will run here and have a good chance. Likes Black Corton.

QMCC

WG: Thinks Altior too good and will win impressively. Says he is probably the most talented horse in training. GL agrees.

GL: Actually likes Min.
MC: Altior will win.

AG: Politilogue is now too long in the W/O Altior market and probably should be backed.

Other races on Day 2.

Cross Country

MC: Not sure why The Last Samurai is going here and likes Tiger Roll.

Fred Winter

MC: Act of Valour well backed. Some money taken for Nicholl’s Oistrakh Le Noir.

WG: Likes Espirit de Samoza here.

Champion Bumper

WG: Knows Mullins likes Hollowgraphic and Acey Milan has probably the best for of the British horses.

Brian Hughes has text AG to say he likes Cloudy Dream in the Ryanair, Look my Way in the Fred Winter, Barney Dwan in the Close Bros and his old favourite Mount Mews EW in the JLT.


Day 3

JLT

AG: Again difficult to see who runs here. If Monalee ran here he would have a great chance. Invitation Only seems to be favourite by default. Very open race with no superstar. Feels Tizzard’s will improve at the festival. Also says Bigmatre is a big prize. Terrefort confirmed here and soft ground would be a plus.

WG: Benetar beat his horse Keeper Hill on bad ground, wasn’t that impressive though but maybe a solid EW. Big fan of Terrefort and has a good chance in an open race. Finian’s Oscar would be a no no. Modus is timid horse (a soft f*cker as Nicholls says)

MC: Terrefort is unexposed and would be his choice.

Ryanair

AG: Waiting Patiently won’t run and BH has confirmed this. Really strong on Top Notch EW and is one of his biggest bets so far. Will also cover by backing Balko Des Flos and Cue Card as win only bets. Probably would back and trade Cloudy Dream in running. Frodon could spoil the party.

MC: UDS is a bit more restrained now than the tear-*rse he used to be. This race is as far as he wants tho,

AG: Expects Cue Card to be ridden aggressively.

WG: Very open race and if you can get 12s on Cue Card he is a good EW bet.

Stayers

WG: 6 or 7 could win this and very open. La Bague Au Roi would get the Mares allowance and would have a good chance if he sends her here. Says she is stronger this year and won 3m on heavy so distance not an issue. Wishes Mares was on the new course on the Thursday then his decision would be made. Also thinks Yanworth could be a big player.

AG: Agrees with WG that 6 or 7 could win it and La Bague Au Roi is of interest. Sam Spinner has the best form and if Mullins trained would be 7/4 so he is overpriced. Interesting market move on Supasundae after this last win beating Faugheen over a different trip, will he stay?
Yanworth will trade bigger in running. Penhill isn’t without a chance if fit.
L’Ami Serge will be favourite heading down the hill but doesn’t find off the bridle.

MC: Agrees that Sam Spinner should be shorter. Penhill is of interest but hasn’t been backed by the owner yet which is normally a sign. Would back L’Ami Serge EW.

Other races on Day 3

Pertemps

WG: Runs Boite but took a heavy fall LTO.

MC: Took money on Thomas Campbell & Who Dares Wins.

AG: Likes Who Dares Wins.

A man from the northern Racing Club says that Matt Woolston, head man at the jockey club, informed him that Glenloe only ran at Market Rasen last time to get a handicap mark for this race. Is this a sign?

Kim Muir

WG: Says Missed Approach will be saddled by Noel McPartland (but I cant find an entry for him).

MC: Mall Dini well backed for this but he always seems well backed at the festival.


Day 4

Triumph Hurdle

GL: Likes Redicean

MC: Thought Apple’s Shakira would be short priced favourite but now Redicean has entered the fray and now thinks Redicean will go off jolly on the day.

WG: Likes Redicean, very impressive so far and Alan King is good with juvenile hurdlers. Also likes We Have A Dream and won LTO even though wasn’t at this sharpest.

AG: Redicean impressive and likes the fact he is good from 2 out until the line although LTO he was impressive throughout the whole race. Stormy Ireland is also of interest and maybe a back to lay in running.

Albert Bartlett

MC: Popular betting race and there could be a turn up. Santini backed well by connections.

WG: Runs Mulcahys Hill who has graded form and has a squeak. Thinks Next Destination would win this if he runs.

AG: Likes Warren’s horse EW.





Gold Cup

AG: 7 or 8 have a chance here. Our Duke or Killultagh Vic EW chances. Sizing John, Might Bite and Native River all have obvious chances and rightly first 3 in the market. SJ is the one who has more to prove. Native River has had the perfect prep though. Potential to lay Might Bite in running.

MC: Fan of Native River. Road to Respect has similar to profile as SJ last year. Would just pick Road to Respect over Native River though.

WG: Might Bite will run his race and looks more straightforward this year. Was good in the King George. Also likes Native River, worried about the bounce factor though but if he runs to his form last year will be right up there. Edwulf will run conservatively and staying on for a place.

AG: Thinks Definitely Red is a good solid chaser but runs to about 150 bar one time. Total Recall probably out for a spin before an Irish Grand National effort. Minella Rocco and Djakadam massive prices.

GL: Might Bite.

Other Races on Day 4.

County Hurdle

AG: Old favourite A Hare Breath EW. Wants Charli Parcs to go here as would back him but looking like he will go Champion Hurdle which is a shame.

Foxhunters

WG: Says Paul Nicholls likes Wonderful Charm.

Grand Annual

MC: Money for Vaniteaux,

AG: Likes Vaniteaux but only negative he’s not the bravest in a finish.

WG: Also likes Vaniteaux.

NAPS

MC: Tiger Roll (X Country)

WG: Any Second Now (Close Brothers)

AG: A Hare Breath (County)

GL: Ordinary World (Grand Annual) – Ran well behind Min.

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Thanks

Mount Mews goes Coral and not JLT as stated by Hughes.