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Cheltenham Preview Nights 2018

FlagshipUberalles said:
Pretty sure Byrnes said last week that Off You Go is swerving Cheltenham!
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Don't know what Swan was on about, I knew OYG wasn't in the Pipe but didn't realise he had no entries at all. Out of the loop isn't entered in anything either.
 
Folski said:
Don't know what Swan was on about, I knew OYG wasn't in the Pipe but didn't realise he had no entries at all. Out of the loop isn't entered in anything either.
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There's about 50 posters on this site know more than that panel
 
To be fair to Tony Mullins, I was at a preview last year in Portlaois and still have the notes on my phone.

What he got right:
"Yanworth won't beat the ambulance in Champion" - referred to this the last night and said he fancies him for stayers.
"Buveur D'Air better than Yanworth."
"Can't have Melon, but he'll beat bunk off"
"Limini lay of meeting, if she was right she'd go in Champion, something smelly about her this year"
"Let's Dance wins mare novice from here to Stradbally"
"Yorkhill is a man now, wins by a mile"

Naps - Yorkhill and Let's Dance

What he got wrong:
"Bacardys best horse in Neptune" - horse was badly hampered and won the grade 1 at Punchestown
"Scorpions have no guts, if Might Bite was 5L clear after last I would still lay him" - small bit of vindication here :)
"VVM wins mares"
"COC not a XC horse"
Advised Charbel without Altior, while technically a losing bet he was running some race.

Other:
Said he hadn't seen Willie as bullish about Djakadam in a long time.
 
Folski said:
To be fair to Tony Mullins, I was at a preview last year in Portlaois and still have the notes on my phone.

What he got right:
"Yanworth won't beat the ambulance in Champion" - referred to this the last night and said he fancies him for stayers.
"Buveur D'Air better than Yanworth."
"Can't have Melon, but he'll beat bunk off"
"Limini lay of meeting, if she was right she'd go in Champion, something smelly about her this year"
"Let's Dance wins mare novice from here to Stradbally"
"Yorkhill is a man now, wins by a mile"

Naps - Yorkhill and Let's Dance

What he got wrong:
"Bacardys best horse in Neptune" - horse was badly hampered and won the grade 1 at Punchestown
"Scorpions have no guts, if Might Bite was 5L clear after last I would still lay him" - small bit of vindication here :)
"VVM wins mares"
"COC not a XC horse"
Advised Charbel without Altior, while technically a losing bet he was running some race.

Other:
Said he hadn't seen Willie as bullish about Djakadam in a long time.
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He's been "famously" correct on some Mullins targets too hasn't he over the years.
Wasn't he the one who was saying Vautour wins the Ryanair from about 3 weeks out?
 
Been sent this but trying to find out where it was from.

Notes from a Cheltenham preview last night.


Couple of head lads and jocks.....








Cross Country - Bless the wings ew


Fred winter look at bigger priced horses like Esprit d Simoza


Queen mother Altior. Douvan no show. Forest Behan ew. Against Politologue


RSA Monolee preferred over Presenting Percy. Ballyoptic may outrun odds. Avoid older horses


Coral cup. Look at a horse thats been off for more than a month. Long house hall given a positive but needs to be fresh, Elliot throwing everything at it. Barrow.


Wed - Ballymore - Watching race prob. Vision de flow ew makes appeal


Close Bros - cobra de mai following wind op. But has got to get in. Rather B needs considering.





NH chase Fagan, elliot plot


Rumour of headgear for faugheen but its a rumour


Consider Mytentoryours e/w from andrew


Champion hurdle - chtibello will go, but probably outclass. Run off the pace for place money


Ultima - Coo Star Sivola


Arkle - sceau royal ew, lay st calvados


Kalashnikov or Paloma blue in the 1st
 
jonthehammer said:
Been sent this but trying to find out where it was from.

Notes from a Cheltenham preview last night.


Couple of head lads and jocks.....








Cross Country - Bless the wings ew


Fred winter look at bigger priced horses like Esprit d Simoza


Queen mother Altior. Douvan no show. Forest Behan ew. Against Politologue


RSA Monolee preferred over Presenting Percy. Ballyoptic may outrun odds. Avoid older horses


Coral cup. Look at a horse thats been off for more than a month. Long house hall given a positive but needs to be fresh, Elliot throwing everything at it. Barrow.


Wed - Ballymore - Watching race prob. Vision de flow ew makes appeal


Close Bros - cobra de mai following wind op. But has got to get in. Rather B needs considering.





NH chase Fagan, elliot plot


Rumour of headgear for faugheen but its a rumour


Consider Mytentoryours e/w from andrew


Champion hurdle - chtibello will go, but probably outclass. Run off the pace for place money


Ultima - Coo Star Sivola


Arkle - sceau royal ew, lay st calvados


Kalashnikov or Paloma blue in the 1st
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I know you diddnt pick him yourself.
Buy Fagan is NOT a plot, it's not a handicap and his form is poor. He's priced uo on elliot alone and a run in the Albert Bartlett a long time ago. He's literally no chance.
 
Scooby91 said:
I know you diddnt pick him yourself.
Buy Fagan is NOT a plot, it's not a handicap and his form is poor. He's priced uo on elliot alone and a run in the Albert Bartlett a long time ago. He's literally no chance.
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He was outpaced by Black Corton when 2nd to him over 3m. You could easily argue the trip should bring out improvement in him.

No chance? Lay me 1000/1 ? :p

Maybe they thought "plot" meant 'had a break' haha - certainly right, it is NOT a plot.

Rathvinden beats him in the forecast :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
He's been "famously" correct on some Mullins targets too hasn't he over the years.
Wasn't he the one who was saying Vautour wins the Ryanair from about 3 weeks out?
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That was mentioned by the MC last night.
 
The short I posted was Tom Messenger, Tim Peters, Andrew mount and Paul Jones. Held in market harborough on Tuesday.
 
The Brave Nelson Pub, Brentwood Cheltenham Preview Night – 26th January 2018



Panel


Luke Tarr – Star Sports (LT)
Luke Harvey – TV presenter and Bloody nice bloke (LH)
Paul K – Racing Post (PK)
Bill E – City AM Racing (BE)
Mick Fitz – Ex Top Jockey and legend (MF)


Day 1


Supreme Novices Hurdle


MF – Getabird really impressed at Punchestown but it was a weak race, he thinks Kalashnikov has the form to beat Getabird (6/1)
PK – Getabird has issues going left handed, he says Kalashnikov has the best form but he would go for Sharjah at a price (16/1)
LH – Kalashnikov has the best form he likes Summerville Boy (11/1) who jumps well
LT – If Kalashnikov was trained by a bigger yard would be much smaller price
BE – Kalashnikov EW


The Arkle


PK – Footpad not fast enough for good ground. Petit Mouchoir (7/2) and Saint Calvados (5/1) will go forward
MF – A Petit Mouchoir fan, he beat Footpad 3 times over hurdles and will put it up to him
LH – Petit Mouchoir has the class but not sure re the jumping, go for Saint Calvados who will handle good ground
LT- goes 5/4 Footpad, fancies Saint Calvados


Champion Hurdle


MF – Buveur D’Air (4/9!) and Faugheen (5/1) Forecast. Faugheen the only horse that can serve it up to BD
PK - Buveur D’Air will win. He likes Wicklow Brave Each way (14/1)
LH- This is a weak race Buveur D’Air will win. Faugheen has no chance. Suggests My Tent or Yours each way (10/1)
LT – Wicklow brave is overpriced and has each way value
I asked re Elgin (16/1) if it is supplemented. MF says travels well but may not find enough for this.

Other day 1


PK – Coo Star Sivola (14/1) will not be out of the frame in the Ultima (2.50)
Mares hurdle – all said Apples Jade will win (8/13)
MF – Likes Al Boum Photo (20/1) in the NH Challenge Cup (4.50)
BE – Likes Mall Dini in the same race (10/1)
In the Close Brothers (5.30) PK like Barney Dwan (8/1) and LT likes Movewiththetimes (10/1)

Day 2


The Ballymore


PK – Can see Samcro winning and fancies Black Op EW (14/1) who was second to Santini on trials day
MF – his only concern for Samcro is it hasn’t run at Cheltenham. Likes Black Op EW
LH – On the blind side has done nothing wrong (5/1). He then said Santini is his bet of the meeting and therefore like Black Op
LT – Black Op EW
BE – Next destination (9/2)



RSA


PK – Likes Presenting Percy (5/2), worried about tough race last time out. Black Corton jumps well and is tough, has a good chance
MF – likes Black Corton who handles any ground. Also concerns that Percy bottomed by that last race


LH – Black Corton
LT – Percy will win
BE – likes Black Corton


Champion Chase


MF – Altior wins (4/6). Great field for a place (10/1) if it gets on the front end
PK – Likes Altior but came up with a stat that horses off long break that are highly rated have won 52 times but then only once second time…a concern!
LH – Doesn’t care about the stat, Altior wins and has no flaws. Douvan has no chance.
BE – Special tiara (16/1) each way


Other day 2


Coral Cup – LT likes Le Breuil (20/1), PK likes Deal D’estruval (12/1) and Diese Des Bieffes (12/1)
In the cross country MF says Tiger Roll got a big chance, has been over and schooled round the fences
In the Fred Winter PK likes Act of Valour but needs decent ground (10/1) and LT likes Nube Negra (10/1)


The Bumper


LT – Didtheyleaveuoutto (6/1)
PK – mentioned Rhinestone (8/1) and Hollowgraphic (7/1)
MF – Mullins loves Hollowgraphic and really fancies it


Day 3


JLT


PK – has backed Benetar (9/1) but likes Finian’s Oscar (not even in the betting!)
LH – FO is no good. Benetar one of the bets of the meeting
MF – if Monalee runs it will win (12/1)
LT – not many in the betting will run so go for Benetar


Ryanair


LH – UDS needs soft. He thinks Top Notch will win.
MF – UDS, lots of the others will come out
PK – Stamina question for UDS, Cue Card is too old. He likes Balko Des Flos (7/1) each way, won in Galway, Irish Gold Cup second and will make the frame.
BE – Balko the best bet


Stayers


MF – L’Ami Serge (12/1), Won 3 mile hurdle in France and placed in the supreme and the county last couple of years
PK – Gave lots of reasons why he likes La Bague Au Roi (12/1)
LH – Alan King in form likes Yanworth (5/1)
BE – Uknowhatimeanharry (14/1)
LT – L’Ami and Yanworth each way



Other day 3


PK – likes Mister Whitaker (14/1) in the Pertemps (4.10).
MF – Long House Haul in the same race if it runs (14/1)
Mares novice MF likes Laurina (Evens) and BE likes Dame de Compagne (16/1)

Pertemps


PK – Who dares wins will stay (16/1), also Wait for me (25/1)
BE – JP horse, Sort it out each way (16/1)


Day 4


Triumph Hurdle


MF – Apples Shakira worries if quick ground (5/2). Redicean (9/2) is a player on half decent ground
PK – cannot have Apples if decent ground, likes Farclas on better ground (8/1)
LH – Apples is weak, likes we have a dream (7/1) but fancies stormy Ireland (7/1)
LT – We have a dream as he heard Henderson cannot split he and Apples
BE – Farclas


Albert Bartlett


PK – Santini (13/2) has the most potential. He said go for a horse that has run in lots of races and he likes Callet mad (33/1)
LH – Santini has impressed the most this year
LT – Santini
MF – Duc Des Genièvres (8/1) will be ridden to get home if it runs and Chef Des Obeaux if soft
BE – Santini


The Gold Cup


MF – Native River is a solid bet
PK – Might bite is a nutter and would rather be on road to respect
LH – Might bite 3/1 is not a good price. Total Recall and Minella Rocco will be shorter on the day
BE – if soft native river and total recall (ruby rides total recall)


The Foxhunters


Richard Spencer said Sir Jack in good form and ready to go.
PK – Wonderful charm (6/1)
LH – Burning Ambition (4/1) and Caid Du Berlais (10/1)


Others day 4


County hurdle


MF – Hunters call (10/1)
PK – Flying tiger (16/1)
LT - Mohaayed (20/1)
PK likes Deal D’estruval in the Martin pipe


Grand Annual


LH – Vaniteaux has had the hand brake on (14/1)
LT – also Vaniteaux
MF – Ordinary world (20/1)
PK – decent ground go for Diego du Charmil (25/1)


NAPS


LT – Kalashnikov in the Supreme
LH – Santini
PK – Diego du Charmil
MF – L’Ami Serge
BE – Balko Des Flos
 
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