Cheltenham Handicap Shortlists

[Kevloaf]

Moon Racer - the bookies favourite horse.

 

[jonthehammer]

After reading a piece online I noticed the Grand Annual may be an option for Cadmium depending on how he gets on in his next race (Fairyhouse next weekend). He is rated 146 at present. I asked Skybet for a price (Obviously NRNB now) and they have put him in at 14s.

 

[Hurricane fly]

Moon Racer - the bookies favourite horse.

I can’t forget the bumper plunge and win, for my perils!

However bumper horses usually need a step up and thought it was interesting they got him qualified and haven’t heard a peep since

 

[archie]

If you'd backed every Mullins and Elliott runner in the Cheltenham handicap hurdles for a stake of 1 point you'd have had a profit of 50 points last season and 15 points in 2017. You'd have lost 5 points in 2016.

Seems to me, if you wait for NRNB and back every Mullins and Elliott horse at entry stage, you might do even better but if you don't want to tie up too much money for a couple of weeks it might be a strategy on the day. They neither of them send over horses just for a jolly.

 

[FaugheenTheMachine]

Which handicap does Glenloe go off favourite for?

 

[Quevega]

Which handicap does Glenloe go off favourite for?

Kim Muir for me, but he needs to get two more runs in first.
B365 gone 40-1 for 4 miler if anyone not on, and could end up there with a chance if things fall that way

 

[jono]

Kim Muir for me, but he needs to get two more runs in first.
B365 gone 40-1 for 4 miler if anyone not on, and could end up there with a chance if things fall that way

Bar any setbacks don't see any reason why they can't get 2 more runs into Glenloe between now and the Festival.
I've taken the 22/1 with WH for the Kim Muir - think it's by far the most likely option.

If they do struggle to get those runs in though then the 40/1 or the 4miler with b365 is huge when we have had Elliott namecheck the race for him. Have also added that purely as a backup. Don't think it'll be the race he lines up in (favour Jerrysback for JP there) and though I am not a fan of backing a price with 365 and cashing out for profit, there's no way he stays 40/1 when NRNB kicks in

 

[Quevega]

Bar any setbacks don't see any reason why they can't get 2 more runs into Glenloe between now and the Festival.
I've taken the 22/1 with WH for the Kim Muir - think it's by far the most likely option.

If they do struggle to get those runs in though then the 40/1 or the 4miler with b365 is huge when we have had Elliott namecheck the race for him. Have also added that purely as a backup. Don't think it'll be the race he lines up in (favour Jerrysback for JP there) and though I am not a fan of backing a price with 365 and cashing out for profit, there's no way he stays 40/1 when NRNB kicks in

been waiting for a price for Muir, and 20s with boost tempts, but gonna wait for now, have covered the four miler just in case.
sure one of jp's will go in rsa, but no real idea which one.

 

[doctorwu]

What did you think of Glenloe's jumping today?

 

[Quevega]

What did you think of Glenloe's jumping today?

wasn't watching him to be fair, but didn't notice anything too negative and was his first attempt on a tricky enough track over too short against experienced rivals in the main.

 

[Kevloaf]

Not a lot changed from the posts back on page 9 regarding Gelnloe for me...

I don't have the fears about him having another couple of runs, it isn't like Elliott is unaware of the rules, he'll have a plan if he wants him there in that race.

I have added again at 40/1 for the 4 miler in case I am wrong, as he won't be anywhere near that price (as has already been highlighted).



I think I will add 1.5 pts e/w now with WH at 22/1 as a bit of a gamble. The NRNB prices aren't going to be much over 12/1 and I WANT 16/1 really NRNB.

Should probably wait for another entry :very_drunk:

 

[jono]

Obviously made a bad mistake 4 out. And was untidy at a couple earlier on but apart from that I saw no major issue with Glenloe's jumping today. Travelled through the race (until the mistake) well considering the trip wouldn't have suited and the conservative ride

 

[thistlecracker]

Not a lot changed from the posts back on page 9 regarding Gelnloe for me...

I don't have the fears about him having another couple of runs, it isn't like Elliott is unaware of the rules, he'll have a plan if he wants him there in that race.

I have added again at 40/1 for the 4 miler in case I am wrong, as he won't be anywhere near that price (as has already been highlighted).



I think I will add 1.5 pts e/w now with WH at 22/1 as a bit of a gamble. The NRNB prices aren't going to be much over 12/1 and I WANT 16/1 really NRNB.

Should probably wait for another entry :very_drunk:

Is it the Kim Muir your adding at 22’s ?

 

[Kevloaf]

I have yeah.

The smarter move would be wait and see if he gets an entry in the next few weeks, as he needs two more before he can run...

 

[archie]

Similar to Battleoverdoyen, I think there's a danger that people are thinking that Gordon will be making the Glenloe decision. If you could hack Frank Berry's (and Eddie O'Leary's) electronic messaging systems....

 

[Viking Flagship]

Was the first horse mentioned in this thread by JackieMoon but I'd just like to say that I've had my first bet in the Ultima... Talkischeap at 25/1 with B365. A general 16/1 chance I wanted to get in there before 365 go NRNB and the price goes.

I've liked his 2 performances this season against LBAR and Lostintranslation, staying on well on both occasions over intermediate trips. Already a 3m winner over hurdles there's good reason to suspect there will be more improvement to come when stepped up in trip. Alan King has won this race a couple of times in the past, once with a novice (Fork Lightning) and his other winner (Bensalem) also went for this race as a novice when looking the likely winner before falling 2 out - he then came back and won it the following year. I have toyed with the any race markets for this horse but quite frankly this is the race I'd fancy him for so I'm happy to take the bigger price and hopefully have a cash out fallback if he looks to be heading elsewhere. He needs 1 more run and is entered at Donny on Wednesday in a decent 3m novice chase and a big run could see them tempted by the RSA - but I'm hoping for a solid if unspectacular performance.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Was the first horse mentioned in this thread by JackieMoon but I'd just like to say that I've had my first bet in the Ultima... Talkischeap at 25/1 with B365. A general 16/1 chance I wanted to get in there before 365 go NRNB and the price goes.

I've liked his 2 performances this season against LBAR and Lostintranslation, staying on well on both occasions over intermediate trips. Already a 3m winner over hurdles there's good reason to suspect there will be more improvement to come when stepped up in trip. Alan King has won this race a couple of times in the past, once with a novice (Fork Lightning) and his other winner (Bensalem) also went for this race as a novice when looking the likely winner before falling 2 out - he then came back and won it the following year. I have toyed with the any race markets for this horse but quite frankly this is the race I'd fancy him for so I'm happy to take the bigger price and hopefully have a cash out fallback if he looks to be heading elsewhere. He needs 1 more run and is entered at Donny on Wednesday in a decent 3m novice chase and a big run could see them tempted by the RSA - but I'm hoping for a solid if unspectacular performance.

He already has a chase mark of 145 and it did not get increased after La Bague Au Roi won at Kempton. As Lonstintranslation has won since, he could he rerated potentially this week.

He is entered at Donny on Wednesday along with some reasonable horses including OK Corral and Secret Investor. Hopefully they won’t damage his mark in that race.

 

[SeanRock]

Have requested a price from 365 on City Island with a view to the Martin Pipe...

I originally had requested a Ballymore price but a handicap is probably more likely!

 

[Viking Flagship]

Interesting to see Flawless Escape entered up back over hurdles at Clonmel on Thursday after an unsuccessful start to life over fences. Could be one for the Martin Pipe again? Well backed favourite for it last year. Isn't there a trend in the handicaps about horses being fancied and flopping, to then return the following year and win - I certainly think it's happened 2 or 3 times in the Grand Annual.

Anyway, to add to the interest, the 2016 & 2017 winners of this race at Clonmel followed it up with 3rd and 6th in the Martin Pipe, so it might be a race to keep an eye on. Commander of Fleet and Dunvegan 2 other very notable entries and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see CoF end up in the MP race.

 

[doctorwu]

Interesting to see Flawless Escape entered up back over hurdles at Clonmel on Thursday after an unsuccessful start to life over fences. Could be one for the Martin Pipe again? Well backed favourite for it last year. Isn't there a trend in the handicaps about horses being fancied and flopping, to then return the following year and win - I certainly think it's happened 2 or 3 times in the Grand Annual.

Anyway, to add to the interest, the 2016 & 2017 winners of this race at Clonmel followed it up with 3rd and 6th in the Martin Pipe, so it might be a race to keep an eye on. Commander of Fleet and Dunvegan 2 other very notable entries and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see CoF end up in the MP race.

Interesting entry VF. He's very well thought of in the Mullins yard. I can see Mullins plotting a nice course for FE.
Ive got him "any race" with Hills @27.6/1