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Cheltenham Handicap Shortlists

Faugheen_Machine said:
I put another in a betslip to check and that was also restricted.

Got what I wanted on between 17.5/1 and 16/1 though. Thanks for highlighting Kev.
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This has been happening to me since September.

They will only allow a certain amount per 24 hours. So in theory you could of boosted for another £20 or whatever 24hrs later.
 
Buried in the Donns site

Diego Du Charmil (Paul Nicholls)

Diego Du Charmil could finish only fifth of five in the Haldon Gold Cup at Exeter on his debut this season, but there was mitigation. He suffered an over-reach during the race, and he lost a shoe, which explains why he faded so quickly after travelling so well.

He shaped like a talented young chaser last spring. He was travelling like a likely winner in a decent novices’ handicap chase at Ascot in March when he came down at the third last fence, but he bounced out of that to win the Grade 1 Maghull Chase at Aintree, when he had Petit Mouchoir behind him in second place.

He was well beaten by Altior in the Celebration Chase at Sandown on his final run last season, and that, combined with his last-of-five run on his debut this term, may mean that he is a little under-rated now. He is only six, he has lots of scope for progression and, winner of the Fred Winter Hurdle in 2016, he will be of interest at the Cheltenham Festival again this season.
 
Kevloaf said:
The Storyteller
Just wins the Coral Cup doesn't he.Gordon has already mentioned his mark over hurdles
13 lbs lower (at least) - handicapper won't be able to do anything about it at Cheltenham.
5L behind Min/Shattered Love/Balko Des Flos today...

Just so obvious.
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Eye catching performance. Loved the way he traveled. Could be a very good call Kev.
 
Bha unveiled there changes after findings from previous festivals today iv'e just read
https://www.racingpost.com/news/che...iding-claims-in-bid-to-improve-welfare/357307

Most notable - jockeys in the martin pipe are no longer entitled to claim any weight off , therefore encouraging booking jockeys with more experience .
Any 2 mile chase race has a maximum field of 20 so Grand annual could be a little harder to get into this year potentially.
 
Outlaw said:
Bha unveiled there changes after findings from previous festivals today iv'e just read
https://www.racingpost.com/news/che...iding-claims-in-bid-to-improve-welfare/357307

Most notable - jockeys in the martin pipe are no longer entitled to claim any weight off , therefore encouraging booking jockeys with more experience .
Any 2 mile chase race has a maximum field of 20 so Grand annual could be a little harder to get into this year potentially.
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That's a good change for the latter. Grand annual was an awful spectacle last year. Far too many runners.
 
Outlaw said:
Bha unveiled there changes after findings from previous festivals today iv'e just read
https://www.racingpost.com/news/che...iding-claims-in-bid-to-improve-welfare/357307

Most notable - jockeys in the martin pipe are no longer entitled to claim any weight off , therefore encouraging booking jockeys with more experience .
Any 2 mile chase race has a maximum field of 20 so Grand annual could be a little harder to get into this year potentially.
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Is that confirmed or just recommendations?
 
Recommendations as of today, but it says action plan to be confirmed and implemented from feb 2019 so i'm assuming it will be in effect by next festival :confused:
 
Outlaw said:
Recommendations as of today, but it says action plan to be confirmed and implemented from feb 2019 so i'm assuming it will be in effect by next festival :confused:
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Agree with the Grand Annual, that's been a logical move mooted by some over a few seasons.

The conditional jockeys surprises me, I guess the stufdy shows more fatalities in those races? Or more falls? I wouldn't have thought there was a strong correlation between jockeys experience and number of falls - I've always thought a horses jumping is hugely down to the horse rather than jockey?
 
Surprised they don't move grand annual either, it always looks dark when they run that.
Or is that cos my life is about to be duller for another long year.
 
Doesn't give any reason bar to encourage booking more experienced jockeys, Could speculate and say as each race is getting more competitive and better horses are required to enter , some owners might not want an inexperienced jockey on there horse. Having said that many in that race come from big stables so highly doubt it plus some of these claimers might not in future be good enough to ride at the festival again so seems a bit harsh tbh.
 
quevega said:
Surprised they don't move grand annual either, it always looks dark when they run that.
Or is that cos my life is about to be duller for another long year.
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Haha! It's hard to pick what race should be last though.

I'm usually exhausted. I didn't bother with it in my first two betting festivals (probably as I was only watching on TV and partly because I wouldn't have heard of anything in the races). Only had the winner once, although had a horse place every year bar 2016. Not interesting but it was right in front of me
 
Outlaw said:
Doesn't give any reason bar to encourage booking more experienced jockeys, Could speculate and say as each race is getting more competitive and better horses are required to enter , some owners might not want an inexperienced jockey on there horse. Having said that many in that race come from big stables so highly doubt it plus some of these claimers might not in future be good enough to ride at the festival again so seems a bit harsh tbh.
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It'd take away from the race in my opinion.

A good claimer can really make a difference (in a similar way the top amatuers make a difference) which is part of that unique puzzle.

If someone produces evidence they're "bad hor horses wellbeing" then I'd happily accept that isn't important, but there just can't be a direct correlation between horses dying and number and number of winners can there?
 
Yeah i wouldn't of thought so, they might make few more tactical errors but would be surprised if there was evidence to support fatalities/accidents .Any shrewd trainer will say whilst a good 7lb claimer is worth there weight in gold if you get them on side early doors, but if they rate the jockey anyway the difference between one claiming a few extra lbs in a race like this wouldn't sway them too much if faith in a particular jockey even with small margins making differences in these competitive races.
 
The thing with that article that surprised me was to read that a 7th horse was also put down after the festival due to complications with surgery.

But it didn’t name the horse? Was it hidden deliberately? Does anyone know which horse?
 
Middle_Of_March said:
The thing with that article that surprised me was to read that a 7th horse was also put down after the festival due to complications with surgery.

But it didn’t name the horse? Was it hidden deliberately? Does anyone know which horse?
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I think it was Melrose Boy
 
Key proposals include:

Enhanced veterinary checks on all runners and targeted alterations to race conditions at the Cheltenham Festival

A major project to build 'a predictive risk model' for racing as a whole to assist with future reform

Monitoring jockeys and trainers who have a higher than average number of falls

Reducing the maximum number of runners in the Grand Annual Chase from 24 to 20

Changing conditions of the Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle to encourage the use of more experienced jockeys rather
than riders who can claim a weight allowance
 
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