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Cheltenham Festival Handicaps

No Crack Tiepy in the Martin Pipe, that one hurts, had in at least 3 multi's.
 
Liam301287 said:
Pleased Velvet Maker is in a couple of them be interested on the day if he turns up. Run a ok race other week in Ireland.
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Very pleased with his 3 entries. My guess is the Grand Annual. MP or County?? i doubt it.
 
Liam,
20s offered for Velvet Maker in the Grand Annual NRNB
 
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Liam,
20s offered for Velvet Maker in the Grand Annual NRNB

Will get on the 20's as soon as I can. Tempted to have small ew bets in the races Velvet entered in.
 
Not sure why people are surprised with cause of causes. Trainer stated last week that the cross country is where he was going. sure to run a great race.
 
ziggym said:
Not sure why people are surprised with cause of causes. Trainer stated last week that the cross country is where he was going. sure to run a great race.
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I'm not expecting much from him, I think this is a prep for the National and he didn't want the horse to have a tough race and as many know they don't go a full racing pace until they come out onto the course proper 2 out.
Cause of Causes is all stamina, hunting round for over 3 miles won't suit him at all, but it'll blow away the cobwebs and put him right for Aintree...
 
Based on Gaultstats. Shortlist for Ultima is like this

Kruzhlinin
Coologue
Rock The Kasbah
Champers On Ice
Henri Parry Morgan
and Singlefarmpayment
 
I'd be very interested in Singlefarmpayment for this at 16s, if this was his definite target...
 
Devastated that Hells Kitchen was yanked from the Close Handicap Novice Chase. Leaves my shortlist for this race now at just Blazer atm
 
Istabraq said:
I'd be very interested in Singlefarmpayment for this at 16s, if this was his definite target...
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Had backed him at 20s NRNB for the 4 miler. Reinvested that at 14s NRNB for the Ultima. He's a horse I want on my side wherever he turns up that week. I know that Tom George said he might go RSA rather than handicap but hoping he doesn't go that route.
 
Wainright said:
16/1 NRNB Could look a big price come 14thMarch.
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Absolutely, especially as it looks like the target with the National out of the picture!
I did take 16 NRNB a few weeks ago, a little surprised the price has held really.
 
jono said:
Weights won't be out for another week of course but here's the lowest OR needed to get in from the last 3 festivals for each of the handicap races:

Tuesday - Ultima

2016 - 131
2015 - 133
2014 - 129

Tuesday - Novice Chase

2016 - 136
2015 - 135
2014 - 132


Wednesday - Coral Cup

2016 - 139
2015 - 138
2014 - 135

Wednesday - Pertemps

2016 - 128
2015 - 129
2014 - 127


Thursday - Pertemps

2016 - 135
2015 - 135
2014 - 135

Thursday - Plate

2016 - 135
2015 - 137
2014 - 131

Thursday - Kim Muir

2016 - 134
2015 - 130
2014 - 131


Friday - County

2016 - 138
2015 - 134
2014 - 132

Friday - Martin Pipe

2016 - 135
2015 - 135
2014 - 133

Friday - Grand Annual

2016 - 137
2015 - 130
2014 - 136
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Here's the lowest OR needed to get in from the last 3 festivals for each of the handicap races : winning rating in brackets

Tuesday - Ultima

2016 - 131 (148)
2015 - 133 (146)
2014 - 129 (145)

Tuesday - Novice Chase

2016 - 136 (140)
2015 - 135 (137)
2014 - 132 (137)

Wednesday - Coral Cup

2016 - 139 (149)
2015 - 138 (139)
2014 - 135 (153)

Wednesday- Fred Winter

2016 - 128 (133)
2015 - 129 (131)
2014 - 127 (130)

Thursday - Pertemps

2016 - 135 (139)
2015 - 135 (138)
2014 - 135 (148)

Thursday - Plate

2016 - 135 (142)
2015 - 137 (140)
2014 - 131 (140)

Thursday - Kim Muir

2016 - 134 (142)
2015 - 130 (137)
2014 - 131 (138)

Friday - County

2016 - 138 (138)
2015 - 134 (138)
2014 - 132 (139)

Friday - Martin Pipe

2016 - 135 (139)
2015 - 135 (135)
2014 - 133 (143)

Friday - Grand Annual

2016 - 137 (140)
2015 - 130 (143)
2014 - 136 (147)

Updated for winning ratings..
 
Without having to look through all the entries of the Kim Muir in depth, does anyone have any initial thoughts as to what Codd will ride?
Does he tend to just ride the horse with the best chance? Does he have a loyalty to any particular trainer in this? does he tend to ride horses that he has ridden before?
Trying to use the Codd angle to grab a decent price NRNB before Jocks are confirmed...
 
Doctor Harper could be a possiblity. He rode The Package in the Kim Muir a couple of years ago for the same connections.
 
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