Cheltenham 2026 Prices

[EnvoiAlien]

Horrible race for betting ante post but do we assume Banbridge will abandon any Gold Cup thoughts next season ?
I've seen 12/1 for the Ryanair, not a price I can fall in love with but tempted to add to a multi or two...

Think they'll be half minded to skip Cheltenham for Aintree or Fairyhouse next season, had their ground and he just didn't turn up on the day, might turn out that something was amiss with the horse but it does give Joseph an excuse to work a programme that's focussed on the KG repeat then onto Aintree.

 

[Istabraq]

Think they'll be half minded to skip Cheltenham for Aintree or Fairyhouse next season, had their ground and he just didn't turn up on the day, might turn out that something was amiss with the horse but it does give Joseph an excuse to work a programme that's focussed on the KG repeat then onto Aintree.

King George/Ryanair unlikely ?
I suspect Fact to File will be heading to the blue riband and this race will be full of usual non gold cup stayers and paceless champion chase horses....

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Think they'll be half minded to skip Cheltenham for Aintree or Fairyhouse next season, had their ground and he just didn't turn up on the day, might turn out that something was amiss with the horse but it does give Joseph an excuse to work a programme that's focussed on the KG repeat then onto Aintree.

I'd agree. That's two no shows at the Cheltenham festival in the last two years. The King George followed by the Bowl or Melling should be the plan next year.

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

King George/Ryanair unlikely ?
I suspect Fact to File will be heading to the blue riband and this race will be full of usual non gold cup stayers and paceless champion chase horses....

How about The Jukebox Man at huugggeee price?

 

[Eggs]

King George/Ryanair unlikely ?
I suspect Fact to File will be heading to the blue riband and this race will be full of usual non gold cup stayers and paceless champion chase horses....

….Majborough Ryanair/F2F GC. I did that double earlier.

Immediately after the GC, I got the impression Slevin was still in no doubt about him getting the distance so maybe it was more about the course.

 

[Istabraq]

Immediately after the GC, I got the impression Slevin was still in no doubt about him getting the distance so maybe it was more about the course.

Banbridge ?
Has a M Pipe win on the New Course and a novice chase win on the Old Course, can't see why they'd think he can't act on the course.
His Ryanair run last season was in deep ground when he should never have run, I got the impression he was just a non stayer in the Gold Cup, emptied after the climb to the top of the hill.
Personally I'd be surprised if JOB wants to swerve Cheltenham with a serious dart...

 

[Saxon Warrior]

How about The Jukebox Man at huugggeee price?

I've had a bit of the 40s Each Way for the Gold Cup

They dont seem.to think the injury is going to hold him up at the start of the next season.

So given how good he looked. Debuting straight into that Grade 2 at Newburys big winter meeting, then followed it up with a smooth Grade 1 win at Kempton.

Then it's easy to think that horse could've had a massive impact in the BANC (but for his injury), and he could be the staying Novice Chaser to take out of this season with a view to next seasons King George and Gold Cup - at a big price, to soothe the risk of backing an injured horse.

His stablemate Handstands is decent too.

Plus Lecky of course.

 

[Exar Essay]

Unibet have Brighterdaysahead in their BANC market twice. Once misspelled at 16/1 and once correctly spelled at 40/1. I’ve taken 40/1 as cover for that race. No doubt we’ll all still be guessing where she ends up in 11 months time.

 

[CJW]

Unibet have Brighterdaysahead in their BANC market twice. Once misspelled at 16/1 and once correctly spelled at 40/1. I’ve taken 40/1 as cover for that race. No doubt we’ll all still be guessing where she ends up in 11 months time.

Nice, Although I don't trust her, she's been beaten twice now at the festival and the Browns looks stacked with potential.

 

[Ice]

Nice, Although I don't trust her, she's been beaten twice now at the festival and the Browns looks stacked with potential.

The banc definitely looks like it could be a good un, at the moment.

 

[Eggs]

….notice 365 have finally cut Derryhassen Paddy, now 28-1 from 33-1 (BANC).

 

[Ice]

Must have been my tenner last night ! :biggrin-new:

 

[BuckingThe Trend]

Unibet have Brighterdaysahead in their BANC market twice. Once misspelled at 16/1 and once correctly spelled at 40/1. I’ve taken 40/1 as cover for that race. No doubt we’ll all still be guessing where she ends up in 11 months time.

I reckon the owners of BDA will want to actually win a Festival race next year instead of being the talking horse and will go for the lowest hanging fruit possible which surely would be the Mares Chase. And Gordon won't be persuading them differently two years on the trot !

 

[EnvoiAlien]

King George/Ryanair unlikely ?
I suspect Fact to File will be heading to the blue riband and this race will be full of usual non gold cup stayers and paceless champion chase horses....

Oh no,I fully expect him to defend the KG crown, just not sure I'd be taking a price on him for next season round here until nearer the time, all through the build up Joseph was keen to mention ground would dictate his target & if it was on the heavier side of soft he'd be happy to skip altogether, so given he was stating himself & connections would be happy to miss a chance at a Gold cup with a legitimate contender I wouldn't want him onside just yet and think his price will hold right up until he lines up at Kempton in december.

 

[EnvoiAlien]

I reckon the owners of BDA will want to actually win a Festival race next year instead of being the talking horse and will go for the lowest hanging fruit possible which surely would be the Mares Chase. And Gordon won't be persuading them differently two years on the trot !

100% this, as long as she jumps a fence I can't see them messing around with the RSA or Arkle, they'll want the most straightforward contest for her,middle distance,against her own sex, looks easy from here :biggrin-new:

 

[Istabraq]

Oh no,I fully expect him to defend the KG crown, just not sure I'd be taking a price on him for next season round here until nearer the time, all through the build up Joseph was keen to mention ground would dictate his target & if it was on the heavier side of soft he'd be happy to skip altogether, so given he was stating himself & connections would be happy to miss a chance at a Gold cup with a legitimate contender I wouldn't want him onside just yet and think his price will hold right up until he lines up at Kempton in december.

He's just had the best ground he could ever hope for and didn't get home in the Gold Cup (by some distance) which for me just confirms the different demands of Kempton and Cheltenham.
I agree his targets will be entirely ground dependent but don't see JOB writing off Cheltenham unless the heavens open, and at this stage I'm of the view should he make Cheltenham it would be for a Ryanair.
12/1 isn't a great price but should he make the race I think he'll be going off at Fact to File prices and that one will be heading to the Gold Cup, the question is whether 12/1 represents enough value to get involved right now, I'm unsure...

 

[knockando]

….notice 365 have finally cut Derryhassen Paddy, now 28-1 from 33-1 (BANC).

Sporting Life put him up as part of their antepost selections for next year, which will have been part of the collapse, but obviously was mainly Eggs 's tenner which caused the market move.

For anyone not seen it, they also put up:

Fact to File for GC at 6s;
Windbeneathmywings 40s for supreme; and
Jonbon 10s for CC

I've backed Derry - can't say I loved the other shouts too much, and am resisting the urge to slavishly follow and back a supreme horse this early on... ***

*** obviously this time next year in 2026 when windbeneathmywings has pissed in at 6/4 I'll be the mug.

 

[EnvoiAlien]

As Derryhassen Paddy is getting a few mentions I thought I'd share this which is interesting, hope Ben from NTF doesn't mind me sharing his work, It was from an email he sent out so should be fine, cheers Ben

DERRYHASSEN PADDY
This capped off a fine season of novice hurdling for the imposing 6yo and he looks an exciting prospect for fences next season... this is only the second horse Lucinda Russell has ever run in this race, the other being 2012 winner BRINDISI BREEZE, who also came in with an unbeaten Hurdles record... sadly we never got to see Brindisi Breeze on the track again but it maybe shows how highly they rate this one that he’s only the second horses they’ve ever run in ANY G1 Novice Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival.
Worth noting that he’s by ARCTIC COSMOS and his offspring tend to take a run to find their feet over fences, with stats for ARCTIC COSMOS offspring on chase debut reading... 0/39, 7p... which we can view a couple of ways... should DERRYHASSEN PADDY get beat on chase debut then it’s nothing to worry about, he’s just following the same trajectory that all his sire’s kids do over fences... on the other hand, should he WIN on Chase debut we could be looking at a VERY high class chase prospect in the making, as he would be doing something none of the other offspring had so far managed to do (WIN on Chase debut).

 

[Istabraq]

*** obviously this time next year in 2026 when windbeneathmywings has pissed in at 6/4 I'll be the mug.

This year has once again confirmed this years bumper horses and next years novice hurdle division is one to swerve until the latest possible time.
If the markets were to be believed Kopek was heading to the Turners and Final Demand was heading to the Bartlett right up until the DRF, you need balls the size of hot air balloons to be getting involved with Mullins horses so far out.
As for the King horse we have the even bigger issue in that we haven't seen him come up the hill, so is he a Supreme, Turners or Bartlett horse ?
Or a handicapper ?
Or a right hand bully ?
Who knows.
40/1 I can see the interest but not sure there's a price big enough for me to get involved right now...

 

[archie]

From the Bartlett, I'd be taking Wendigo over Derryhassen Paddy. Wiped out by The Big Westerner after the second last and would, in my opinion, have finished third without that. 25/1 seems about fair given the trainer's comments that he'll be put away now for chasing next season.