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Cheltenham 2020 - Ante post bets

Interested in what people think of the QMCC market.

Altior at 3/1 but he surely must go up in trip! Doesn’t seem like he would want 3miles at Cheltenham to me, but could you really see him entered in the Ryanair?

Le Richebourg and Cilaos Emery would look to be value at 20/1
 
Where do ye think Andy Dufresne goes lads? Interestingly Coral the only book to have him and they've him at 16s w/ Envoi Allen and ahead of Malone Road at 20s. Big fan of the horse but feel that's a little puzzling.
 
Cant have Altior in the Ryanair, its just not prestigious enough, and assuming he doesnt win the king george staying on strongly then he wont go gold cup. Has to be the champion chase again surely.
 
Hurricane fly said:
Envoi Allen and Malone Road both to win any race 100/1 1U

Saldier - Champions hurdle - 33/1
Topofthegame - Gold Cup - 12/1

0.5U e/w

Rewatched the RSA and on any given day any of the top 3 could have won. Spoke with the owners son of TOTG and they were really confident an extra 2f would help him.

Champion Hurdle looks wide open, at this point I believe in backing horses that target is fairly certain, but Klassical Dream for the Champion Hurdle at 9/1 is very tempting.
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Where have you got the 100/1 for envoi and malone?
 
Could be interested in We Have A Dream for the Arkle if I can find a good price, shaped this season over his hurdles like he could take well to a fence & has just shown he can handle Cheltenham in that run for 2nd in the county hurdle. Seems a likely route when you consider he probably isn't good enough for a crack at CH and proved that this year and is probably rated too high to keep ticking over with handicaps etc.
 
Malone Road - Ballymore 20/1
Dickie Diver - RSA 25/1
Cilaos Emery - Champion Chase 20/1
Santini - Gold Cup 12/1

Prices from Skybet, Any takers???
 
Trevelyns Corn RSA 50s looks interesting...
 
Stormez said:
Malone Road - Ballymore 20/1
Dickie Diver - RSA 25/1
Cilaos Emery - Champion Chase 20/1
Santini - Gold Cup 12/1

Prices from Skybet, Any takers???
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On SANTINI, Priced at 33/1 by 365 after RSA, Now already 12's..

I think alot have taken him out of the race as one for the Gold Cup.
 
Cheltenham 2020 prices in the aftermath of the 2019 Festival.

Cheltenham 2020 prices in the aftermath of the 2019 Festival.

The last couple of years I have found the prices for the next Festival to be tighter than I would take for horses I was interested in.

Not sure if I am being foolishly optimistic for Festival 2020 but I have taken a few standout prices for next year from William Hill in the last two days, some were out of line with other bookies.

Paid for by this years results, I have a small portfolio that I hope still looks okay after Aintree and Punchestown.

Champion Hurdle
Band Of Outlaws 40/1, boosted to 43/1

It was cut to 33/1 today in line with other bookies, but boosted would still pay 36/1.
I think the horse looks a cut above normal Frd Winter winners, and imho could well have won today’s Triumph Hurdle (RIP Sir Eric).

Gold Cup
Topofthegame 17,5/1 (boosted)

Cut today to still a top price of 14/1 (15.5/1 boosted)
Happy with the price, after today’s race, it’s clear that’s where PN is aiming and I believe will be his number one hope for the race.

Ryanair Chase
Defi Du Seuil 17.5/1 (boosted)

Standout price, other firms are 8s, 10s and 12s.
Trainer already mentioned the Ryanair, and can’t see him being aimed further up in trip.
At 2 miles, their is some depth (Cilaos, Richebourg, Duc De G) coming through so it makes sense to stick to the intermediate trip for DDS.

Stayers Hurdle
City Island 22/1 (boosted)

Seems a fair price to me, given the connections have mentioned going up in trip, and also sponsor at the Festival, and have a horse that’s won well at this years Festival.
Paisley Park looks class, but never run scared of one horse.

Put the four above into a £1M payout busting Yankee.


Champion Chase
Could be lit up with this years novices, Cilaos Emery, Le a Richebourg, Duc De G, etc, so it’s take your pick at around 20/1 with those. Altior will have a new threat from this lot.
My own preference is
Cilaos Emery 22/1 (boosted), and I have taken that price.

I am less attracted to all of the Novice Hurdle and chase races at this point.

Happy hunting, check out William Hill first, if you are looking for an early price for 2020, that may seem daft now, but look inspired in 51 weeks time.
 
Hamptonfox said:
The last couple of years I have found the prices for the next Festival to be tighter than I would take for horses I was interested in.

Not sure if I am being foolishly optimistic for Festival 2020 but I have taken a few standout prices for next year from William Hill in the last two days, some were out of line with other bookies.

Paid for by this years results, I have a small portfolio that I hope still looks okay after Aintree and Punchestown.

Champion Hurdle
Band Of Outlaws 40/1, boosted to 43/1

It was cut to 33/1 today in line with other bookies, but boosted would still pay 36/1.
I think the horse looks a cut above normal Frd Winter winners, and imho could well have won today’s Triumph Hurdle (RIP Sir Eric).

Gold Cup
Topofthegame 17,5/1 (boosted)

Cut today to still a top price of 14/1 (15.5/1 boosted)
Happy with the price, after today’s race, it’s clear that’s where PN is aiming and I believe will be his number one hope for the race.

Ryanair Chase
Defi Du Seuil 17.5/1 (boosted)

Standout price, other firms are 8s, 10s and 12s.
Trainer already mentioned the Ryanair, and can’t see him being aimed further up in trip.
At 2 miles, their is some depth (Cilaos, Richebourg, Duc De G) coming through so it makes sense to stick to the intermediate trip for DDS.

Stayers Hurdle
City Island 22/1 (boosted)

Seems a fair price to me, given the connections have mentioned going up in trip, and also sponsor at the Festival, and have a horse that’s won well at this years Festival.
Paisley Park looks class, but never run scared of one horse.

Put the four above into a £1M payout busting Yankee.


Champion Chase
Could be lit up with this years novices, Cilaos Emery, Le Richebourg, Duc De G, etc, so it’s take your pick at around 20/1 with those. Altior will have a new threat from this lot.
My own preference is
Cilaos Emery 22/1 (boosted), and I have taken that price.

I am less attracted to all of the Novice Hurdle and chase races at this point.

Happy hunting, check out William Hill first, if you are looking for an early price for 2020, that may seem daft now, but look inspired in 51 weeks time.
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Apologies I tried to start a new thread on 2020 Ante Post, when one was already here.
 
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5pts Paisley Park / Top of the Game 89/1
5pts Paisley Park / Santini 100/1
5pts Paisley Park / Envoi Allen 89/1
£1m Paisley Park / Malone Road / Envoi Allen / Top of the Game
1pt Paisley Park / Envoi Allen / Milansbar (Midlands National) 950/1
 
Anyone able to ask William Hill to price up the Cross Country (ie Tiger Roll)?
 
Carefully Selected and Annamix both entered up later this month.

Willie burns Chacun Pour Sour Novice tag and now may do so with CS
 
Malone Road (Supreme) and Envoi Allen (Ballymore) 314/1
Commander Of Fleet 25/1 RSA

The Any Race market has served me well over the years so will be sticking to that outside bets like the above, at least for the next 6-7 months
 
Supreme: Malone Road
Ballymore: Envoi Allen
RSA: Carefully Selected (convinced he would have won the AB today with a few preps under his belt)
Albert Bartlett: Midnight Run
Gold Cup: Topofthegame
 
Hurricane fly said:
Carefully Selected and Annamix both entered up later this month.

Willie burns Chacun Pour Sour Novice tag and now may do so with CS
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If he hoses up for the rest of the year & wins the Punchestown novice stayers Hurdle I’ll curse the mild winter we’ve had in Ireland :devilish:
 
Hurricane fly said:
Interested in what people think of the QMCC market.

Altior at 3/1 but he surely must go up in trip! Doesn’t seem like he would want 3miles at Cheltenham to me, but could you really see him entered in the Ryanair?

Le Richebourg and Cilaos Emery would look to be value at 20/1
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I'm looking at CILAOS EMERY & CHACUN POUR SOI for this.
 
Samcro RSA 33s could be the one to be on.... can see that being single figures with all the hype around him (which I don’t buy)
 
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