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Cheltenham 2019 Ante-Post bets

I agree ComplyOrDie, from the Bumper last March the 2 I took out of it are Blackbow and Felix Desjy.
Both travelled like good horses but didn't quite get home as too keen early doors.
However with some more experience and some hurdles in front of them both, I expect both to improve and stay at 2m so I've backed both of them for the Supreme.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing when Envoi Allen comes out, taken on by Gordon Elliot following his impressive ptp win, he was highly recommended by Colin Bowe (who also had Samcro prior to Elliot).

I would like to see him come out and attack the 2m division, but its a guessing game at the moment. 14/1 Any Race for a horse who hasn't been seen on track is a little ridiculous, I was expected bigger than 20's.

Has anyone had any information on Envoi Allen and potential routes?

*PTP Footage here if anyone is interested - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HB0Aa7-ruw
 
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Was looking last night the following are horses to win at the festival having ran in the bumper since 2010.

2010 - Cue Card (1), Al Ferof (2)
2011 - Cinders and Ashes (5)
2012 - Champagne Fever (1), The New One (6), Jezki (8)
2014 - Black Hercules (4), Kilultagh Vic (6)
2015 - Supasundae (6)

Not exactly a great strike rate.
 
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Folski said:
Was looking last night the following are horses to win at the festival having ran in the bumper since 2010.

2010 - Cue Card (1), Al Ferof (2)
2011 - Cinders and Ashes (5)
2012 - Champagne Fever (1), Jezki (8)
2014 - Black Hercules (4)
2015 - Supasundae (6)

Not exactly a great strike rate.
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Yeah, happens every year. Even worse for the 2016 & 2017 lots, no festival wins this year from them!
 
Folski said:
Was looking last night the following are horses to win at the festival having ran in the bumper since 2010.

2010 - Cue Card (1), Al Ferof (2)
2011 - Cinders and Ashes (5)
2012 - Champagne Fever (1), Jezki (8)
2014 - Black Hercules (4)
2015 - Supasundae (6)

Not exactly a great strike rate.
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Kilultagh Vic came out of Silver Concorde's bumper and won the following year, but I take your point.
Plenty of good horses come from the race but haven't (yet) gone onto winning at the festival, though I always think stayers are more likely to come from the race
 
Istabraq said:
Kilultagh Vic came out of Silver Concorde's bumper and won the following year, but I take your point.
Plenty of good horses come from the race but haven't (yet) gone onto winning at the festival, though I always think stayers are more likely to come from the race
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Apologies, I did actually spot him as well but was half asleep when I was writing it.

Your point about stayers is interesting as none of the winners won over 2m5f at the Festival.
 
Folski said:
Apologies, I did actually spot him as well but was half asleep when I was writing it.

Your point about stayers is interesting as none of the winners won over 2m5f at the Festival.
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Just realised you missed The New One too.
Reason I checked was I remember Champagne Fever's bumper and down the field there was Many Clouds who of course proved himself as one of the best stayers of modern times, and found TNO.
Jezki came from that race too and although winning a Champion hurdle he proved his stamina in winning the top 3m race at Punchestown later in life
 
Istabraq said:
Just realised you missed The New One too.
Reason I checked was I remember Champagne Fever's bumper and down the field there was Many Clouds who of course proved himself as one of the best stayers of modern times, and found TNO.
Jezki came from that race too and although winning a Champion hurdle he proved his stamina in winning the top 3m race at Punchestown later in life
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I agree, I think all successful bumper horses are ultimately stayers but it's interesting that they aren't doing it at the festival.
 
Istabraq said:
Just realised you missed The New One too.
Reason I checked was I remember Champagne Fever's bumper and down the field there was Many Clouds who of course proved himself as one of the best stayers of modern times, and found TNO.
Jezki came from that race too and although winning a Champion hurdle he proved his stamina in winning the top 3m race at Punchestown later in life
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That was likely the last top quality bumper we had. As of yet the 4 before that have failed to a large number of 'stars', however it would probably be wise not to judge last years (2017) lot until some of them see a fence, if they haven't already. 2016 however, was seemingly a pretty average bunch at best.
 
I still think the 2017 race will show itself to be a decent renewal, not helped by the sad death of the winner of course but I still think the likes of Next Destination, Claimantakingforgan and Western Ryder will prove themselves to be good animals.
 
First post for me on the forum after being a long time guest reader.

Only placed two ante post bets so far on next years Festival and will likely start getting stuck in a bit more the other side of Christmas.

So far I’ve had 5 points on Presenting Percy in the GC.

And a 1 point quad on the following which I placed back in July:

Annamix 16/1 supreme novices
Laurina 5/2 Mares
Buveur D’air 5/2 CH
Presenting Percy 6/1 GC
 
OldPersian said:
First post for me on the forum after being a long time guest reader.

Only placed two ante post bets so far on next years Festival and will likely start getting stuck in a bit more the other side of Christmas.

So far I’ve had 5 points on Presenting Percy in the GC.

And a 1 point quad on the following which I placed back in July:

Annamix 16/1 supreme novices
Laurina 5/2 Mares
Buveur D’air 5/2 CH
Presenting Percy 6/1 GC
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Welcome to the Fat Jockey Old Persian.Got that for covered as well :D
 
Just a reminder that the Oddschecker Any Race market is all over the place. Backed Vision Des Flos earlier at what I thought was a stand out 14/1 with Coral only to realise this evening that he is 20s with Hills (22s boosted) although it showed as 8s earlier via oddschecker. Luckily Coral agreed to refund most of my stake. My advice is rather than use Oddschecker for this market, check first with Hills as they seem to be top price on most (if not all) in the Any Race market.
 
thistlecracker said:
Was very short and sweet about pym and whatswrongwithyou ... will be keeping a close eye on both. Been following Pym since early last year, failed to fire in the race I actually saw but another summer could have done pym the world of good
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Yeah I don’t think Pym & Danny Kirwan were seen to their best in that Aintree bumper due to the soft/heavy ground. Possibly one or two others aswell it’s usually an informative race.
 
SeanRock said:
Yeah I don’t think Pym & Danny Kirwan were seen to their best in that Aintree bumper due to the soft/heavy ground. Possibly one or two others aswell it’s usually an informative race.
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Suprised mr fisher wasn't mentioned . He'll be the one all the hype is around
 
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