Cheltenham 2019 Ante-Post bets

[Faugheen_Machine]

Who did you place this with ? COF odds are nice

William Hill

 

[ComplyOrDie]

I enjoyed One Jump Ahead, but to be balanced in the two names you mentioned - I think Joe Chambers put up Min (Ha) and Ricci Chacun Pour Soi who didn't make it to the track.

Wouldn't shock me at all if Chacun Pour Soi is the one this year, along with Annamix!

Talking of Min, surely it's time to step up in trip, Ryanair? If so, a big shout. Still think Douvan is a danger to Altior, was travelling ridiculously well before coming down, would have loved to have seen that showdown this year. Hoping next year he runs in the CC and stays on his feet.

 

[Innoko]

Never seen a horse power up that hill like Altior!

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Never seen a horse power up that hill like Altior!

Would never dispute that! Power!

 

[Kevloaf]

Talking of Min, surely it's time to step up in trip, Ryanair? If so, a big shout. Still think Douvan is a danger to Altior, was travelling ridiculously well before coming down, would have loved to have seen that showdown this year. Hoping next year he runs in the CC and stays on his feet.

You could argue though it is time to step Douvan up in trip as he has nothing to lose... I am convinced Douvan is a better horse than Min at any trip though, so I suppose it may all come down to what Ruby rides in the CC (If owners send Footpad) then what would be his best shot at a Ryanair? I'd say Douvan...

Of course, you could swap those 3 into any equation so it isn't worth betting on IMO - but is interesting to ponder

 

[KingSprinterSacre]

I agree Kev. Id like to see Douvan stepped up in trip also. Would love to see them send him over for the King George.

Ruby on footpad champion chase, Min Ryanair and Douvan the gold cup. Thats what id like to see but they all could run in different races!

 

[Kevloaf]

I agree Kev. Id like to see Douvan stepped up in trip also. Would love to see them send him over for the King George.

Ruby on footpad champion chase, Min Ryanair and Douvan the gold cup. Thats what id like to see but they all could run in different races!

Yeah absolutely. Bellshill, Un De Sceaux and Yorkhill to throw in the mixer too with Al Boum Photo and Kemboy etc

 

[somer1]

Come on it’s bad enuff playing Mullins bingo without us making it harder

 

[Middle_Of_March]

Never seen a horse power up that hill like Altior!

I said the same immediately after the race when watching him walking in to the winners enclosure.

Nobody around me could think of a horse who relishes the hill quite like he does. As soon as Nico took him wide and he got a glance of that hill, he just went through the gears in the style of a superstar.

I really hope he stays fit as I genuinely believe he could become one of the best 2 milers ever - up there with Sprinter Sacre!

 

[Middle_Of_March]

Yeah absolutely. Bellshill, Un De Sceaux and Yorkhill to throw in the mixer too with Al Boum Photo and Kemboy etc

You can forget about Yorkhill. That one has gone at the game.

Ryanair has so much depth imo even at this stage.

From the Mullins yard and Ricci ownership alone, Min, Douvan, Benie Des Dieux and Bamako Moriviere are all obvious ones.

UDS ain’t finished over 2m 5f yet either imo. He ran a very strange race last year. Similar to his second in the CC behind SS a few years back. Travelled well, then eased off turning in and overtaken before running on again up the hill. Compare that to the 2017 Ryanair victory where Ruby gave him a very very aggressive ride off the front and he galloped they into submission, it’s chalk and cheese.

 

[Istabraq]

Vibes were all wrong about UDS in thr lead up to Cheltenham last season, and the constant shortening of his price on the day was odd as there didn’t seem to be any confidence on course but the exchanges drove him into 8/11.

Worth bearing in mind too that only 6 went to post in that renewal so if considering an ante post interest you get the benefit of 3 places if playing each way but there’s a strong chance yours won’t go....

 

[ComplyOrDie]

I'm not convinced Douvan 'needs' to step up in trip.

Don't care what anyone says about his well-being prior to this years CC, he looked like an absolute tank before coming down, suggesting he is still full of speed and zest for 2m.

His only defeat, injury/falls aside was the race after the festival, against stablemate UDS, on UDS' preferred ground, having, IMO, been trained for Punchestown this time around as opposed to Cheltenham, as has been said, beside the exchanges, UDS was pretty weak in comparison to previous seasons at the festival.

Maybe it's the sceptic in me, but I am not convinced Douvan will ever go up in trip, Sprinter Sacre never had to, and a lot thought he was done after his 2nd-PU-2nd in his form book, but as we know, came back to win his last 4 starts including the Champion Chase.

 

[Kevloaf]

I don't think anyone had said Douvan needs to step up in trip.

He was going well in the CC but he fell a helluva long way out so I'd be wary of over-egging that form!

As I've said a thousand times, he'd near Min in any race so he wouldn't be out of place in the CC at all!

I just pondered that they could try him over further as there may be easier races for him to win if Altior and Footpad are set to clash in the CC

 

[ComplyOrDie]

I don't think anyone had said Douvan needs to step up in trip.

He was going well in the CC but he fell a helluva long way out so I'd be wary of over-egging that form!

As I've said a thousand times, he'd near Min in any race so he wouldn't be out of place in the CC at all!

I just pondered that they could try him over further as there may be easier races for him to win if Altior and Footpad are set to clash in the CC

As a huge Min fan I would have to concede to this as well. Think Min will be the one stepping up in trip out of the 2 though, even with Footpad in the mix (although not Ricci owned), I do not see either Min or Douvan as Gold Cup horses and can see neither taking that big a step up in trip, however I do think they will be split up this time around.

I know the Champion Hurdle has been touted as a route for Min, but time and time again connections have said Douvan is the quickest in the yard over 2m, so would a return to hurdles for him be out of the question as opposed to Min going down that route? Just a thought, and one I wouldn't mind hearing peoples opinions on. Maybe it is too late in the day to switch him back.

 

[somer1]

Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

 

[Istabraq]

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Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

Tad harsh on West Country folk....

 

[somer1]

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Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

Tad harsh on West Country folk....

Lol lol. I’m in Toronto but fly back Friday 6am. Anyone want some maple syrup ? ������

 

[Old Vic]

Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

Apple’s Jade was a beaten 1/2 favourite in Cheltenham’s Mares Hurdle last March and could again finish only third to Benie Des Dieux at Punchestown.

“She lost her form last year and she seemed to be in season all the time from Cheltenham. She’s back in now and seems fine again.

“You’d like to travel the same route with her if you could. The only thing different we might do is probably go for the Irish Champion Hurdle. Last year she went straight to Cheltenham and she tends to be better busy than not busy,” added O’Leary.

 

[Leman14]

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Being 5hrs behind the UK at the mo I’m playing catch up. But read apples jade is back. But where will she go?

Tad harsh on West Country folk....

:highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused::highly_amused:

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Apple’s Jade was a beaten 1/2 favourite in Cheltenham’s Mares Hurdle last March and could again finish only third to Benie Des Dieux at Punchestown.

“She lost her form last year and she seemed to be in season all the time from Cheltenham. She’s back in now and seems fine again.

“You’d like to travel the same route with her if you could. The only thing different we might do is probably go for the Irish Champion Hurdle. Last year she went straight to Cheltenham and she tends to be better busy than not busy,” added O’Leary.

Ideal. If the real Apples Jade turns up she'll take some beating.