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Cheltenham 2017 Antepost Bets

Not sure Mayo, was working on the gallops in February? Maybe just a couple of niggles so they thought they would preserve his Novice Status rather than rush things to lose out on it for this season
 
WOW!!! Absolutely massive news breaking I feel with gigginstown town removing 60 horses from the care of Willie Mullins as they do not wish to pay his training fees, you can see why with trainers constantly retiring from the game due to the money not being there you would have thought they'd be happy to pay whatever Willie was requesting for them for this season coming, surely will effect his Cheltenham team and open it right up and may stop certain horses getting diverted to the wrong races, and you would have thought Elliot can't be taking all them on or even shared with mouse Morris that is a lot to taken on each
 
De Brom and Elliott most likely?

Huge, although regarding targets, I don't think Gigginstown bowed down anyway. They always decided... certainly frees up some space in Mullins yard doesn't it.
 
I think apples Jade could be a big one, I never considered her as a CH Horse up until now, I thought she would get pushed into the WH, but now under a different trainer can see her in the CH, Willie had described her as the best juvenile he's trained which has to be something compared to what he's had under his care
 
In my opinion I don't think Mullins would have been able to push Apples Jade anywhere? I think if Gigginstown wanted AJ to go for the CH, she would have, and still will do.

I think it will affect the trainers championship more than actual targets for those horses... just my opinion but certainly spices things up.

There must be a few that will want those boxes in the Mullins stable now too! 60 slots won't last long...? The Potts' should have waited a week! haha
 
Hopefully the move will be of benefit to Apples Jade and Blow By Blow.:encouragement:
 
I don't think the wellbeing of blow by blow will be effected in any positive way by the switch from Mullins, if blow by blow is going to be a top novice hurdler then Willie would have treated him like one and probably couldn't have been in better hands, mullins is fantastic with his hurdlers for all owners
 
Agree with that regarding Blow by Blow. As good a trainer as Elliott, HDB etc are there's no better than Willie especially regarding hurdlers. I'd say the likes of Blow by Blow and Apples Jade would have been in better hands with Willie. His record with 2m hurdlers and also novice/young hurdlers is outstanding.

Though some of the chasers, specifically staying chasers like Don Poli and Valseur Lido I think could benefit from the switch.
 
Don't worry about wee Gordon, he could teach a bicycle to jump a hurdle.
 
I would hardly recognise Elliott as wee, agree with you Jono that he will definitely progress any staying chasers if there's any improvement left in them, but Willie definitely the best with the hurdlers
 
Tough call as to whether Mullins or Hendo the best trainer of hurdlers ? No one else close imo.

Nicholls is the best trainer of chasers. Could cite loads of horses but he got Dodging Bullets to win the champion chase. Case closed.
 
Still for me I don't even think hendo would lay a glove on Willie and his novice hurdlers, Willie can train loads of novices up to be and who are good enough, with hendo you always find he has just one, hendo for me generally a good all round trainer but doesn't really excel in one particular area of the game, definitely Nicholls for chasing though you can not even begin to question that the man is a genius with them from the handicappers to the grade ones, just superb!!
 
Willie has recency bias in most head to head assessments. Hendo doing it since the 80s. Both have had support of wealthy owners and seem to have an eye for great hurdlers.
 
What did he say Rowebot? IO is a very exciting novice hurdler for me
 
That he was this years most exciting young prospect to go novice hurdling. Also confirmed Yorkhill goes novice chasing.
 
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Ballyandy - Neptune Novices Hurdle 11

Thistlecrack - RSA Chase 2017 7

Identity Thief - JLT Novices Chase 15

Ryanair Chase 2017 Dodging Bullets 26
 
Thistlecrack? What am I missing? :sorrow:
 
Sorry Mayo but I honesty can't see any way Thistle goes for the RSA.. Surely if he jumps well enough it's the big one.. Any little niggly doubts they'll come back to the world hurdle.. I think twister sees the RSA as a waste of a season.. I know a lot of people think 8/1 is a decent bit of value but remember Cue Card shares the same stable.. If he's as good as he was last year NTD might switch Thistle with the view of winning both races
 
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