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Cheltenham 2017 Antepost Bets

Massively agree with the altoir comments which has me interested in min for the arkle at 8/1.. We all know what willie and the boys thought of him through the winter, enough so to keep yorkhill away from him at Cheltenham.. Breathing was the reason for defeat and put away straight after if they get that sorted I can see him being a force.. Is an out and out 2 miler and with pretty much no chance RR can fit him into his hurdling ranks if he stays sound the arkle must be his target
 
cwright23 said:
Massively agree with the altoir comments which has me interested in min for the arkle at 8/1.. We all know what willie and the boys thought of him through the winter, enough so to keep yorkhill away from him at Cheltenham.. Breathing was the reason for defeat and put away straight after if they get that sorted I can see him being a force.. Is an out and out 2 miler and with pretty much no chance RR can fit him into his hurdling ranks if he stays sound the arkle must be his target
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Sound thinking there but aren't they aiming Yorkhill at the Arkle ?
 
Just found one that is of interest.
Can't understand why S James have Quantitiveasing at 25s for the cross country, guaranteed to be aimed at the race, would have hacked up in 2015 but for an idiot foreign pilot, goes on any ground, won the La Touche Cup at Punchestown last week and should he survive to next March fit and healthy he will be in the top 3 in the betting.
Josies Orders is probably the best in the division but QE offers far more value.....
 
cwright23 said:
Massively agree with the altoir comments which has me interested in min for the arkle at 8/1.. We all know what willie and the boys thought of him through the winter, enough so to keep yorkhill away from him at Cheltenham.. Breathing was the reason for defeat and put away straight after if they get that sorted I can see him being a force.. Is an out and out 2 miler and with pretty much no chance RR can fit him into his hurdling ranks if he stays sound the arkle must be his target
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I agree with Min. Not sure about his breathing but he picked up a tendon injury in the race and was ruled out for the remainder of the season. Picking up an injury and still running to 2nd in the supreme is a massive run in my eyees.
 
Istabraq said:
Just found one that is of interest.
Can't understand why S James have Quantitiveasing at 25s for the cross country, guaranteed to be aimed at the race, would have hacked up in 2015 but for an idiot foreign pilot, goes on any ground, won the La Touche Cup at Punchestown last week and should he survive to next March fit and healthy he will be in the top 3 in the betting.
Josies Orders is probably the best in the division but QE offers far more value.....
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Agree with all of that Ista - at least 10 points too big. It's not a race I generally get involved with until the day of race but that price has tempted me in. Only problem I had was getting all of my stake on with SJ.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Agree with all of that Ista - at least 10 points too big. It's not a race I generally get involved with until the day of race but that price has tempted me in. Only problem I had was getting all of my stake on with SJ.
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Yeah they were standout FM, 12s and 16s elsewhere I think.
They closed me down after I backed Martin Kaymar to win the US Open, prior to that I was a loser with them, but of course they took a view that I had inside information on a 128 runner golf major, clowns !
Hope you got what you wanted, retained your account, and the horse gets there fit and well
 
Needed to use a couple of accounts to get it on but happy enough.
 
I get the feeling they did all they could to keep yorkhill and min apart last year I think they'll do the same next year.. Yorkhill could go JLT or even stick to hurdling
 
Looking at them in the parade ring when I was at Cheltenham, I'd say Yorkhill looked much more like a chaser than Min.

Yorkhill is nailed on to go over fences next season imo
 
Think they are both nailed on to go chasing, and they will of course be seperated. Yorkhill JLT, Min Arkle makes sense imo.

Dont think Min will be kept to hurdling with Annie, Faugheen, Sempre all for the champion hurdle in same ownership.
 
KingSprinterSacre said:
Think they are both nailed on to go chasing, and they will of course be seperated. Yorkhill JLT, Min Arkle makes sense imo.

Dont think Min will be kept to hurdling with Annie, Faugheen, Sempre all for the champion hurdle in same ownership.
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thats how id call it too

VVM could be a Gold Cup horse or a World Hurdle horse.

Annie could go chasing but doubt it tbh. Faugheen up in trip ?
 
Morning Glory said:
thats how id call it too

VVM could be a Gold Cup horse or a World Hurdle horse.

Annie could go chasing but doubt it tbh. Faugheen up in trip ?
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If Faugheen returns fit and well he will stay in 2m. Ruby said hes the best they have still over 2m including Annie
 
Anyone got any strong views on next years gold cup? The head of the market looks muddy with don Cossack (injured) vatour (stamina and target) and thistlecrack (hurdling) not to mention cue card (age) duovan (QMCC) and djakadam (class) all with something to prove, something at a big price might we worth chancing
 
cwright23 said:
Anyone got any strong views on next years gold cup? The head of the market looks muddy with don Cossack (injured) vatour (stamina and target) and thistlecrack (hurdling) not to mention cue card (age) duovan (QMCC) and djakadam (class) all with something to prove, something at a big price might we worth chancing
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If Coneygree comes back he would be fav for me.
Mullins seems to have numerous bullets without knowing what his best chance is, it really wouldn't surprise me if Thistlecrack won the thing, he will be a novice but he won't be an inexperienced horse should he line up.
I'm not sold on the RSA form to be honest but we'll know more by Christmas....
 
Of the bigger prices I like Black Hercules but he is on the easy list and haven't heard how badly injured he was/is. Plus he is trained by WPM and I'm avoiding his horses ante post for the time being.
 
RSA form probably adds up to diddly squat but at the prices I like moreofthat of the gold cup outsiders. Bled in the RSA and clearly has that problem but think prices reflects the risk.
 
UDS back over hurdles today in France, is this something else to factor in for next year?
 
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