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Cheltenham 2017 Antepost Bets

Altior @ 7/1 ch
Yanworth @ 14/1 world
Thistlecrack @ 8/1 gc
Barters Hill @ 14/1 rsa
Ballyandy @ 14/1 Neptune
Fagan @ 20/1 4 miler
On the Fringe @ 5/1
Super Heinz, 120 bets EW
 
Fagan for the 4 miler is one that I'm interested in, even at this early stage.
 
Yeah that is certaintly true Mayo.

Anyone have any thoughts about Zabana? I just had a look to see what price for the Ryanair but couldn't see any odds. I can see 50s for the Gold Cup but with him being aimed at the JLT at Cheltenham I thought Ryanair might be an option?
 
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Kevloaf said:
Yeah that is certaintly true Mayo.

Anyone have any thoughts about Zabana? I just had a look to see what price for the Ryanair but couldn't see any odds. I can see 50s for the Gold Cup but with him being aimed at the JLT at Cheltenham I thought Ryanair might be an option?
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Id say he is versatile enough but he won the 3m 1f grade 1 novice at punchy so probably be given his chance at longer ?

http://www.skysports.com/racing/res...town/26-04-2016/growise-champion-novice-chase
 
Think Barters will line up in JLT Nov Chase tbh, sorry Mayo. Can see your point about backing a horse in two races Kevloaf but worth a small wager in each I think unless you back it in the win any race markets
 
Thanks Mayo, I did watch that last night actually.... I started watching the Cheltenham festival in full and posted about the Ryanair in here, and then picked some select races from Aintree and Punches and saw him over 3m1f so I agree, the lure of the GC would tempt me in if I only trained 6 horses!

Paz, what makes you fancy the JLT at this stage? I remember Pauling saying he would be great over 2 and a half because of his high crusing speed and they ended up going for the longer race. In my head that is quite decisive and for a smallish trainer and owner, they will want to know if he stays as a novice when over fences before surely going for a Gold Cup bid in 2018?
 
Kevloaf, I was adamant Barters was a shoe-in at the fest this year in the Neptune, but then they they went Albert Bartlett? I re-watched the Doncaster race he won over 3 miles and he battled on strongly to keep ahead so I thought he should be fine over 3m at the fest, as it happened he was beaten, now I know he had the scare just before the fest and it was brushed aside come the day so that may have been niggling him still, but I think his freestyle running from the front if he doesn't settle like he tends to sometimes will not cut it at 3miles over fences at the fest, flatter tracks he might get away with it, but I'm not sure at Cheltenham. Pauling has said he's grew and matured over the Summer months which is always a positive but I just have this niggling feeling they may just keep him at 2 and half and go 3miles the year after with runs over fences under his belt and another year of maturity (8yrs old come 2018 Fest) on him. I may well be proven wrong as is normally the case ha ha and that is the joy of jumps which I love
 
I've been nibbling at:

Yorkhill 6/1 JLT
Alpha Des Obeaux 8/1 RSA
Champers On Ice 25/1 NH Chase
 
Yeh I can definitely see your point paz. I think a front running style over fences gets shown to be effective time and time again. Horses like Village Vic and Smad place (those kinds of racing styles) are my favourites. It is hard to say what he'll be up against as that could well determine where he ends up. I suppose I am talking myself in to thinking he would be more likely to win a JLT, although I still think he is more likely to run in the RSA. Really I should just back at 12's to win any race, as barring injury he'll end up in one of them with a great chance...albeit probably not a lot shorter than 12's?
 
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Hi Vanilla, what are the thoughts behind Yorkhill for the JLT? I think Wylie and Ruby said if he goes chasing he could win the Arkle and eventually will be a gold cup horse. Doesn't give us much hope so just wondering what your thoughts are :)
 
Yorkhill is one of those that I will follow wherever he goes, that Neptune win followed by the victory at Aintree were brilliant. The Mullins circus before Cheltenham could centre around him again with the choice of Arkle or JLT, or even champion hurdle? Ruby said Arkle. I think JLT (especially if Altior goes Arkle)..
 
kevloaf,

I have based by belief in the JLT for Altior because of:
1.He has performed very well over 20/21 furlongs.
2. The presence or not of Altior and Min in the Arkle will have a major influence on where Yorkhill lines up.
3. If Min recovers from his injury then he looks a 2 miler, so WP will try to keep Yorkhill and Min apart
3. Yorkhill is by Presenting, I think the best Presentings need a trip
 
* Yorkhill for JLT, typo, sorry.
 
I agree, the Mullins team wanted to dodge Altior with Yorkhill last year so think they will do the same this year. If he's a gold cup horse of the future, he needs to go JLT this year first..
 
If I was going to back Yorkhill at 6/1 for the JLT I would double it up with Min for the Arkle. (62/1)

I personally think that Ruby holds a huge hand in where they end up at the festival and considering that the Tuesday is 'Ruby Tuesday'. He will be on whichever horse gives him the best chance to win the Arkle (even if that isn't the best race for that horse) - I believe they didn't 'avoid Altior' so much this year, it was more that they thought Yorkhill could beat Yanworth and Bellshill couldn't, and Ruby wanted to ride both. I guess they thought Min had a better chance of beating Altior than Bellshill did beating Yanworth?

With that being the case, the only way I can see Yorkhill lining up in the Arkle is if Min isn't thought of as a 'good thing'. Therefore, if I was going to take the 6s, I would go for the double.

You could take the 2s for him to win any race I suppose but wouldn't be much shorter on the day. Plus Barters Hill is winning the JLT less than 24 hours after he bolts up in the RSA ;)
 
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Agree with the Min/Yorkhill double.
 
Not sure about the horses fitness but IT CAME TO PASS was going really well last year when he fell 3 out in the Foxhunters, totally unexposed and will only be 7 next festival, one to have a look at 16/1
 
I will have to go back and watch that race because I can only remember watching On The Fringe the entire race. Guarenteed target at least and you'd imagine single figures on the day. Not a fan of the trainer either.
 
It Came To Pass was well backed in the lead up to the race and was still going well when unseating (as were many others).

I'm not a fan of the trainer but this horse was running well last season, when many of his stable weren't.
 
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