Champion Bumper ‘25

[DenmanSacre]

20s NRNB if anyone wants to continue with bumper roulette.

Prof Tisdall has been buying a fair number lately. She's also part owner of Pipes horse.

 

[Lobos]

20s NRNB if anyone wants to continue with bumper roulette.

Prof Tisdall has been buying a fair number lately. She's also part owner of Pipes horse.

And Final Demand

 

[JackieMoon33]

Intteresting.
JackieMoon33 any thoughts on this one ?

He should be hurdling at that age! :highly_amused:

He was a good winner and achieved a high rating for a 5yo. He looks like he's got a fair engine as he poured it on from a fair way out. Won very comfortably and no surprise he's been snapped up by powerful connections. He looks a fair size too so shouldn't be found wanting coming up the hill.

 

[Deleted member 4957]

He should be hurdling at that age! :highly_amused:

He was a good winner and achieved a high rating for a 5yo. He looks like he's got a fair engine as he poured it on from a fair way out. Won very comfortably and no surprise he's been snapped up by powerful connections. He looks a fair size too so shouldn't be found wanting coming up the hill.

Many thanks.
Would 20/1 NRNB scream value to you ?

 

[Eggs]

….Gameofinches seems popular, cut 16-1 with PP. 365 still 20-1 NRNB, BFSB 20-1 AP.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Many thanks.
Would 20/1 NRNB scream value to you ?

Depends how many you've already backed :highly_amused:
If you're light on selections so far then it's a fair price with NRNB. It's a proven route that Willie likes for decent horses so it's reasonable value.

 

[Deleted member 4957]

Depends how many you've already backed :highly_amused:
If you're light on selections so far then it's a fair price with NRNB. It's a proven route that Willie likes for decent horses so it's reasonable value.

Well I don’t bookbuild and have no cashout so every bet I place has to be considered.
His PTP win was obviously impressive and form has been boosted by several of those he galloped over, his RPR would be impressive enough too.
I don’t read every stable tour and I don’t recall this one being mentioned before this week (in here) and there are clearly some very clever and shrewd people in here who are usually all over things like this, he just seems to have appeared from nowhere.
Happy to take the flyer…

 

[JackieMoon33]

Well I don’t bookbuild and have no cashout so every bet I place has to be considered.
His PTP win was obviously impressive and form has been boosted by several of those he galloped over, his RPR would be impressive enough too.
I don’t read every stable tour and I don’t recall this one being mentioned before this week (in here) and there are clearly some very clever and shrewd people in here who are usually all over things like this, he just seems to have appeared from nowhere.
Happy to take the flyer…

He was purchased after the early season stable tours and they've given him a break by the look of it to bring him back at the end of this season. So it's no surprise that he's not been mentioned in the public domain that much to date. Of course, now the entry appears it that particular race, he's going to be popular.

Take the NRNB for sure.

 

[DenmanSacre]

Well I don’t bookbuild and have no cashout so every bet I place has to be considered.
His PTP win was obviously impressive and form has been boosted by several of those he galloped over, his RPR would be impressive enough too.
I don’t read every stable tour and I don’t recall this one being mentioned before this week (in here) and there are clearly some very clever and shrewd people in here who are usually all over things like this, he just seems to have appeared from nowhere.
Happy to take the flyer…

Copacabana would be the same as he wasn't in any stable tours (but hadn't ran in a PTP either). Hard to find information this year on a number of the bumper horses.

Kalypso never got a mention by Gordon either, fawned all over his others and Kalypso seems to be his best one.

​​​​​​It's been an odd year for the bumper compared to the past few years where on here we had a general idea which horses would prove best. All set up for something to arrive late to be the best, or just a mess of a race with a bunch finish.

 

[Kevloaf]

Usually we end up hearing a leak about which bumper horses won a schooling race to sort the behind the scenes pecking order

Last year it was Romeo Coolio but then he flopped on track before 'bouncing back' on the days itself

I haven't heard any rumours this year though about schooling races

 

[Durham Edition]

Usually we end up hearing a leak about which bumper horses won a schooling race to sort the behind the scenes pecking order

Last year it was Romeo Coolio but then he flopped on track before 'bouncing back' on the days itself

I haven't heard any rumours this year though about schooling races

Although he was talking about hurdles schooling races I'm sure Ruby said they haven't done any this year due to the weather, think it was on the most recent RTC.

 

[RoadToCheltenham]

Usually we end up hearing a leak about which bumper horses won a schooling race to sort the behind the scenes pecking order

Last year it was Romeo Coolio but then he flopped on track before 'bouncing back' on the days itself

I haven't heard any rumours this year though about schooling races

Gordon's were due to go to Tipperary in September/October time but the ground was so quick, a few of the scheduled dates for those schooling days were cancelled. Vibes at home around that time were that Classical Creek and Theflyingking were the top two - fair to say that didn't work out too well!

 

[Hurricane fly]

I've seen Ksar Fatal has been pulled from Punchestown tomorrow.

Becoming less likely we see him?

 

[Studfarm254]

Surprise there’s been no mention of Aqua Force today. Bolted up by 28 lengths. Horse in 2nd was 9 lengths behind bambino fever and 14 behind William munny on his last 2 starts. Theres another horse ginny Weasley was 45 lengths behind Copacabana (the now crazy priced 4/1 fav for Cheltenham) last week, was 97 lengths behind this today. Yes granted these form lines are a bit wishy washy but you can’t argue with the manner of the victory. No doubt JP’s been on the phone already. 25s NRNB seems alright to me

 

[Quevega]

Surprise there’s been no mention of Aqua Force today. Bolted up by 28 lengths. Horse in 2nd was 9 lengths behind bambino fever and 14 behind William munny on his last 2 starts. Theres another horse ginny Weasley was 45 lengths behind Copacabana (the now crazy priced 4/1 fav for Cheltenham) last week, was 97 lengths behind this today. Yes granted these form lines are a bit wishy washy but you can’t argue with the manner of the victory. No doubt JP’s been on the phone already. 25s NRNB seems alright to me

I've backed her, was watching the second to see if it franked Bambino.
Trainer has hinted massively that he's looking to sell.
If the right type buys her then she may get an entry.

 

[Quevega]

Mullinahone-based trainer Michael Gunn was without a winner under Rules in over 28 years and was represented by his son Miguel who said, “I’ve been looking after things for a couple of years. I’ve only six in at the moment and I’ve a job in the morning.

“She was very impressive. I always thought a fair bit of her at home but that’s above and beyond what I thought to be honest.

“The phone is hopping in my pocket at the moment!

“She’s a mare with a pedigree, it goes back to Back In Front — the good horse of Edward O’Grady’s.

“I’d say someone might own her next time. She must be worth a fair few quid after that. It was a savage performance first time out in a bumper.

“She’s always been relentless and doesn’t know when she has enough done.

“She has a hunter cert. I was going to point-to-point her, and then I thought maybe she’s a bit better than a point-to-pointer.”
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[Kevloaf]

Oh wow, I watched every race today and turned off just before the bumper :confusion:

Watched the replay and backed, 25/1 NRNB is perfectly fair - that was a little bit special ... maybe because I remember Workforce so fondly :indecisiveness:


Aqua Force wins all - she's a weapon! :indecisiveness:



I see Brighterdaysahead won this race before - whilst that's not really relevant at all, it's nice to know a good'un has been in the same race for comfirmation bias too :eagerness:

Looks like the ones in behind Champagne Venture had no form of any significance whatsoever so time may prove she's just decent and they were all shite BUT I'm still very impressed

Thanks for flagging

 

[Eggs]

…Aqua 50-1 AP with BFSB.

 

[Black Dog]

I said only yesterday that Gameofinches was my last bet until the day and then I've just watched the replay of this based on your comments above. It seems I can resist everything but 28 length bumper winners that Will probably be JP owned tomorrow @ 50/1.

 

[Bayoffreedom]

Mullinahone-based trainer Michael Gunn was without a winner under Rules in over 28 years and was represented by his son Miguel who said, “I’ve been looking after things for a couple of years. I’ve only six in at the moment and I’ve a job in the morning.

“She was very impressive. I always thought a fair bit of her at home but that’s above and beyond what I thought to be honest.

“The phone is hopping in my pocket at the moment!

“She’s a mare with a pedigree, it goes back to Back In Front — the good horse of Edward O’Grady’s.

“I’d say someone might own her next time. She must be worth a fair few quid after that. It was a savage performance first time out in a bumper.

“She’s always been relentless and doesn’t know when she has enough done.

“She has a hunter cert. I was going to point-to-point her, and then I thought maybe she’s a bit better than a point-to-pointer.”
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The scary thing is that I can hear Willie saying these exact words! (well..except for the 'only 6 in" part)