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Champion Bumper ‘25

Not a great deal of inspiration for me this year. I’ve just done kalypso, and creek earlier.
now feel that kalypso is the one and 6/1 nrnb is the way to go.
this race has been really good for me antepost in past few years, but this time I could back another half dozen and still not hit the back of the net
 
Quevega said:
Surely the price is generous then ? 33-1 NRNB.
It's either money back or a serious player at shorter surely.

I won't back cos I can;t be arsed but it's a bet to nothing surely.
The odds on her running and going off a bigger price are very big.
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“NRNB takes a way the risk but it's still not overly generous and is based on her Mum and connections only.​”

Definitely a bet to nothing with NRNB, that’s obvious without me saying. But a 4yo mare making her debut now, I wouldn’t say it’s overly generous though.

And I highly doubt she’ll be on the boat regardless.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
“NRNB takes a way the risk but it's still not overly generous and is based on her Mum and connections only.​”

Definitely a bet to nothing with NRNB, that’s obvious without me saying. But a 4yo mare making her debut now, I wouldn’t say it’s overly generous though.

And I highly doubt she’ll be on the boat regardless.
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:highly_amused: Come on Jackie.
Backing horses based on connections and breeding.
Who would do such a thing ?

The 4yr old mare thing makes it all highly unlikely, I get that.
 
Quevega said:
:highly_amused: Come on Jackie.
Backing horses based on connections and breeding.
Who would do such a thing ?

The 4yr old mare thing makes it all highly unlikely, I get that.
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There were P2P winners available at that price pre-season and they have a much better record than 4yo mares. So 33/1 is not overly generous at all and only the NRNB concession makes it worthwhile.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
There were P2P winners available at that price pre-season and they have a much better record than 4yo mares. So 33/1 is not overly generous at all and only the NRNB concession makes it worthwhile.
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I think you know we are talking about 2 different markets here. :encouragement::love_heart:

We've got to "worthwhile" now, so my work is done.

Which means you're more committed than me cos I can't be arsed.
 
Quevega said:
I think you know we are talking about 2 different markets here. :encouragement::love_heart:

We've got to "worthwhile" now, so my work is done.

Which means you're more committed than me cos I can't be arsed.
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This exchange makes me want to be committed:highly_amused:

I certainly won’t be backing her anyway regardless of whether I have an account offering NRNB. Those who want to back the field should lap it up though.
 
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JackieMoon33 said:
There were P2P winners available at that price pre-season and they have a much better record than 4yo mares. So 33/1 is not overly generous at all and only the NRNB concession makes it worthwhile.
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P2p winners have a better record than 4yo mares

Well shoot me down, thats some revelation jackie.

I was quite happy to discuss her with you, but you got all funny when I asked you what price she'd be if she did line up.

but now youve agreed it could be worthwhile with the nrnb concession

I have no problem people disagreeing with me, but don't then agree with someone else on the same subject.
anyway carry on as you were jackie :encouragement:
 
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AaronLad said:
P2p winners have a better record than 4yo mares

Well shoot me down, thats some revelation jackie.

I was quite happy to discuss her with you, but you got all funny when I asked you what price she'd be if she did line up.

but now youve agreed it could be worthwhile with the nrnb concession

I have no problem people disagreeing with me, but don't then agree with someone else on the same subject.
anyway carry on as you were jackie :encouragement:
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You really are desperate for attention and confrontation on here aren't you?

I got all funny? How on earth is anyone supposed to price her 'if she turned up on the day' when she's not even run yet and we don't know the rest of the field. That's a mad request. If anyone answered that question then they're pulling it out their arse.

I stated in my very first post that, whilst it's not a generous price, the NRNB takes away the risk. Did I really need to also say it's 'worthwhile'? Again, you're just being an antagonistic wanker there.

You disagree with everyone, that's your role on here.
 
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JackieMoon33 said:
You really are desperate for attention and confrontation on here aren't you?

I got all funny? How on earth is anyone supposed to price her 'if she turned up on the day' when she's not even run yet and we don't know the rest of the field. That's a mad request. If anyone answered that question then they're pulling it out their arse.

I stated in my very first post that, whilst it's not a generous price, the NRNB takes away the risk. Did I really need to also say it's 'worthwhile'? Again, you're just being an antagonistic wanker there.

You disagree with everyone, that's your role on here.
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Funny if you know that's my role on here, why choose to engage in the first place.
And you're accusing me of seeking attention:welcoming:

You said shed need to be EXCEPTIONAL, to come over. Which if that's the case you should easily be able to have a considered guess at what price she'd be. Not 33/1 which you fully know. Yet I'm the antagonistic wanker. :excitement:

And finally, the last time we had an interaction you suggested i got my panties wet, yesterday you accused me of being argumentative, now you call me a wanker.


Usually when I post, a lot of thought goes in to the post, whether its highlighting a horse which i think would have a good chance in a race or its a post to try and highlight some information that not everyone is aware of or something people might have missed.
Yes I get in to debates, especially when i see throaway comments that go against my opinion when as I said a lot thought goes into my opinions/posts.
Gidleigh park as an example even though he won a 2mile chase in a 2 mile chase time you still tried to claim it was a race full of staying chasers.
so even though you were clearly wrong you still tried claiming you was right.
sort of shit that really pisses me off.

Anyway as you can probably tell I'll be seeking no more attention jackie
 
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AaronLad said:
Funny if you know that's my role on here, why choose to engage in the first place.
And you're accusing me of seeking attention:welcoming:

You said shed need to be EXCEPTIONAL, to come over. Which if that's the case you should easily be able to have a considered guess at what price she'd be. Not 33/1 which you fully know. Yet I'm the antagonistic wanker. :excitement:

And finally, the last time we had an interaction you suggested i got my panties wet, yesterday you accused me of being argumentative, now you call me a wanker.


Usually when I post, a lot of thought goes in to the post, whether its highlighting a horse which i think would have a good chance in a race or its a post to try and highlight some information that not everyone is aware of or something people might have missed.
Yes I get in to debates, especially when i see throaway comments that go against my opinion when as I said a lot thought goes into my opinions/posts.
Gidleigh park as an example even though he won a 2mile chase in a 2 mile chase time you still tried to claim it was a race full of staying chasers.
so even though you were clearly wrong you still tried claiming you was right.
sort of shit that really pisses me off.

Anyway as you can probably tell I'll be seeking no more attention jackie
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I'm baffled by some of the logic of your posts and they just prove my previous points. You're original posts are fine, but the subsequent engagement with other posters is just bizarre. You are correct that it was a mistake on my part by engaging.

Of course she won't be 33/1 if she puts in an exceptional performance and lines up on the day. No one in their right mind is going to say otherwise. 33/1 is an ante post price based on current factors, not her lining up on the day.

I agree that a lot of thought does go into your original posts. The problem is when there a different opinion posed. You don't 'debate' like you mention above, you get defensive, argue and become antagonistic.

In regards to the Gidleigh Park exchange, I can't be bothered to look but I'm sure I just gave an opinion but at no point claimed I was right. I don't think either of us can claim to be right as none of the horses have been back out again to test it. If Gidleigh Park goes and wins the Arkle then I'll happily concede it was a race for 2 milers :devilish:. I'll send you a badge in the post if you're that desperate to be right and me to be wrong.
 
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Tsar Fatal not declared for Navan on Sunday but entered at Newcastle next Thursday
 
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Atlantic Viking said:
No love for Copacabana then?! :highly_amused:
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lol I’m surprised no one mentioned it either. Was definitely interesting given Ksar was supposed to run here and for whatever reason this has run instead. Mixed messages from those with form in behind. Time wasn’t great, 7 seconds slower than the maiden hurdle carrying just 2lb more. Can only beat what’s in front of you though and done it well. Can’t believe it’s vying for favouritism given the other 3 have more substantial form. Does look like it’ll be Patrick’s ride atm unless anything else pops up.
 
I think people are just done with this race now. There's still nothing that has really looked a monster, as in being hugely impressive visually while having substance to the form. Chances are whatever horse you like, you'll probably be able to get a good price on it at some point between now and the race, as i can't see there being a strong fave, unless ksar fatal does something special. And there will probably be a raft of horses at 20/1+ who you could make a good case for on the day.
 
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I know he’s a Pipe horse but the one brilliant performance on every metric (visual, form and numbers) is Windbeneathmywings. He’d be fav if trained in Ireland. And he’s not exactly short at 7/1 when there’s a chance it’s a poor renewal and he might be as good as that performance at Ascot suggested.
 
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Middle_Of_March said:
I know he’s a Pipe horse but the one brilliant performance on every metric (visual, form and numbers) is Windbeneathmywings. He’d be fav if trained in Ireland. And he’s not exactly short at 7/1 when there’s a chance it’s a poor renewal and he might be as good as that performance at Ascot suggested.
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This was how I landed after backing about 5 different Irish hopefuls and none of them looking any good, I've threw a couple of free bets at Windbeneathmywings and that's me done with the race.
 
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