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Champion Bumper ‘25

ComplyOrDie said:
Him & Classical Creek backed, can't go wrong, right? :victorious:
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If you're backing MJH and building a book then you'd need to back Sortudo too. As per the other thread, it wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world if that P2P form was reversed.
 
JackieMoon33 Just spotted Sortudo was carrying 11-6 and Ma Jacks Hill was carrying 11-11 in the P2P. Worth considering when comparing ? Turns a 2 length gap in to a 7 length gap 'ish.
 
BuckingThe Trend said:
JackieMoon33 Just spotted Sortudo was carrying 11-6 and Ma Jacks Hill was carrying 11-11 in the P2P. Worth considering when comparing ? Turns a 2 length gap in to a 7 length gap 'ish.
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That was jockey claim though so should have balanced itself out. MJH also had previous P2P experience which you could argue marks up Sortudo performance as he was making his debut. Swings and roundabouts.
 
What's the source of the quantum boy info in the out for the season thread? I can't find anything anything on it.
 
Thanks, he was the last leg of a good treble so wanted to double check before cashing out.
 
…..looking like a Mullins v Elliott head to head in tomorrows Fairyhouse Bumper. Could be worth a watch with Elliott winning the race last year with Jalon D’oudairies and a few positive reports on Ma Jacks Hill, but You Proof has been backed in the last few hours and bits of CB blue for it.
 
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Eggs said:
…..looking like a Mullins v Elliott head to head in tomorrows Fairyhouse Bumper. Could be worth a watch with Elliott winning the race last year with Jalon D’oudairies and a few positive reports on Ma Jacks Hill, but You Proof has been backed in the last few hours and bits of CB blue for it.
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Also, Emmet’s horse that pulled well clear of the rest with Classical Creek at Down Royal. Should be an informative race..
 
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Was on the lash yesterday but just caught this before i went out. Another dud Josh Stacey tip. I only have Classical Creek and Leaky Cauldron backed for this. I did have a good bet on Quantum Boy but that is a gonner. I haven't backed either of the two from yesterday because -

1. Josh Stacey doesn't have a clue about bumper horses. He considers himself an expert on the Gigginstown horses. JackieMoon33 has far more knowledge in this sphere and would take his word over Josh's

2. Patrick Mullins has been tipping You Proof up as a horse to follow. He did the same last year with Joystick. That, coupled with the November entry sad to me that they have something better to come out at Christmas.
 
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Yosser said:
Was on the lash yesterday but just caught this before i went out. Another dud Josh Stacey tip. I only have Classical Creek and Leaky Cauldron backed for this. I did have a good bet on Quantum Boy but that is a gonner. I haven't backed either of the two from yesterday because -

1. Josh Stacey doesn't have a clue about bumper horses. He considers himself an expert on the Gigginstown horses. JackieMoon33 has far more knowledge in this sphere and would take his word over Josh's

2. Patrick Mullins has been tipping You Proof up as a horse to follow. He did the same last year with Joystick. That, coupled with the November entry sad to me that they have something better to come out at Christmas.
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The 2nd to Classical Creek ran in the race also and finished 16l behind in 6th. Not a good look for Classical Creek either.

The best one we've seen so far is Kalypso'chance
 
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Yosser said:
Was on the lash yesterday but just caught this before i went out. Another dud Josh Stacey tip. I only have Classical Creek and Leaky Cauldron backed for this. I did have a good bet on Quantum Boy but that is a gonner. I haven't backed either of the two from yesterday because -

1. Josh Stacey doesn't have a clue about bumper horses. He considers himself an expert on the Gigginstown horses. JackieMoon33 has far more knowledge in this sphere and would take his word over Josh's

2. Patrick Mullins has been tipping You Proof up as a horse to follow. He did the same last year with Joystick. That, coupled with the November entry sad to me that they have something better to come out at Christmas.
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Josh got his as a ‘tip’ from someone he knows in the Elliott yard. I doubt someone had sold him a dummy, but what they thought of the horse at home has not played out on the track.

He tends to get a lot of his information from people in the business or inside yards so he’s got decent connections. But he’s not basing anything he puts up from P2P or France, as his own workings.
 
HoldenTheReins said:
The 2nd to Classical Creek ran in the race also and finished 16l behind in 6th. Not a good look for Classical Creek either.

The best one we've seen so far is Kalypso'chance
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And Fortune De Mer from these shores. Gordon has a couple more that could throw their hat in the ring and Willie will have his usual battalion to start coming out over the coming weeks.
 
It could just be the PTP horses aren't that good. Graeme North keeps his own ratings for the PTPs and has said last year's and this years maidens were below average.
 
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