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Breeders Cup 2020

gjt7756 said:
I’m going to have to put this up now because I think the bookies have got this terribly wrong again, I thought they was wrong when Tiz The Law was 6/4 instead of 1/2, but Golden Pal at 4/1 for the Breeders Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint is ridiculous value, just watched an hour long interview with Wesley ward from the other day and he thinks this horse will be the best he may have ever trained, at the very least on par with the best, such as lady aurelia etc, his time in the skidmore was ridiculous, top 2yo rating of the season, his pedigree is off the charts, littered with breeders cup event winners, he won’t be seen again until the race. I couldn’t be more confident in this one, he’s one for singles, doubles and all your Cheltenham roll ups....!! Get on now, I’ll take all the stick in the world if this horse finds a way to get beat....
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Fair enough.

I don't do anything blindly (apart from go for a piss at 3am each morning) but I'll be looking at this over the Bank Holiday weekend
 
Kevloaf said:
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Fair enough.

I don't do anything blindly (apart from go for a piss at 3am each morning) but I'll be looking at this over the Bank Holiday weekend
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The Saratoga run is on AtTheRaces he bolts up by 5 lengths, with a stable companion Fauci in 2nd.

https://twitter.com/luis_ernestocg/status/1296923513891299329?s=21

Fiasco is 5th favourite for same the Breeders Cup race at 12/1, and Wesley Ward has said he would fancy Fauci for the race, if he didn’t have Golden Pal.

The Breeders Cup race is at Wesley Ward’s home track, Keeneland, Kentucky. Lucky that :applause:
 
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Will Wesley Ward look to run Campanelle as well?
 
...noticed a Hills ‘Your odds Future Races’ bet;

Golden Pal to win the Breeders Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint and next years King Stand Stakes @ 40-1 (44-1 with boost).
 
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Eggs said:
...noticed a Hills ‘Your odds Future Races’ bet;

Golden Pal to win the Breeders Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint and next years King Stand Stakes @ 40-1 (44-1 with boost).
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WH have Golden Pal as 16/1 for the Kings Stand and 20/1 for the Commonwealth Cup.

Which one would he run in?
 
Saxon Warrior said:
WH have Golden Pal as 16/1 for the Kings Stand and 20/1 for the Commonwealth Cup.

Which one would he run in?
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...the prices suggest Kings Stand is more likely. Regardless, if it does win at Breeders Cup I imagine 44-1 will look quite big.
 
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Saxon Warrior said:
Do you also think the 16/1 and 20/1 for the Commonwealth Cup, and/or the 16/1 for the Kings Stand are great value for next June?
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I feel if the kings stand was run on fast ground it’s a two horse race with battaash and golden pal, so 16/1 looks a decent prospect from here, if he wins the breeders cup juvenile sprint, which I think he doesn’t just win but hoses up in, then that price will be long gone, Supremacy would be my long term view with the commonwealth
 
Campanelle definitely runs in the juvenile fillies turf
 
....looks like the 4-1 for Golden Pal is disappearing, although the 44-1 to also win the King Stand remains.
 
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Eggs said:
....looks like the 4-1 for Golden Pal is disappearing, although the 44-1 to also win the King Stand remains.
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Eggs,

Just taken a trip to a WH Shop to take the 40/1 on the Betting Terminal :encouragement:
I reckon the Kings Stand would be his aim on the Tuesday of Royal Ascot, too.
 
That’s why I had to make the suggestion, Golden Pal down to 11/4 in places which is probably more realistic with 2 months to go, but I still can’t see anything coming out of the pack in America or anything being sent over from Europe, I will still be going in, on the day he will be 7/4 or 6/4 come the off
 
Also a lot of the attention this weekend will be on the Kentucky Derby, but I already have my long term play with Tiz the law so it’s just another race to put my feet up and enjoy, the race that interests me the most is the Kentucky oaks on Friday, basically a match up between Gamine 4/6 and Swiss skydiver 3/1, I’m fully in the Gamine camp but plenty are confident in Swiss skydivers chances, one being Wesley Ward himself, perhaps a small case could be made for speech but it’s the front two to focus on for me, especially as I see the winner here also winning the breeders cup distaff, which Gamine is 3/1 and Swiss skydiver is 6/1, rather than take the 4/6 on Gamine now I’ll be taking the 3/1 with a view to winning the distaff
 
gjt7756 said:
Also a lot of the attention this weekend will be on the Kentucky Derby, but I already have my long term play with Tiz the law so it’s just another race to put my feet up and enjoy, the race that interests me the most is the Kentucky oaks on Friday, basically a match up between Gamine 4/6 and Swiss skydiver 3/1, I’m fully in the Gamine camp but plenty are confident in Swiss skydivers chances, one being Wesley Ward himself, perhaps a small case could be made for speech but it’s the front two to focus on for me, especially as I see the winner here also winning the breeders cup distaff, which Gamine is 3/1 and Swiss skydiver is 6/1, rather than take the 4/6 on Gamine now I’ll be taking the 3/1 with a view to winning the distaff
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Yes, I tend to look ahead to the BC for the US runners, and took Tiz The Law at 6/1 for the BC Classic.
Fingers crossed for his Kentucky Derby run at the weekend.
 
gjt7756 said:
Campanelle definitely runs in the juvenile fillies turf
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I definitely like the angle on Golden Pal then gjt :encouragement:

Watched the clip of his Saratoga win and obviously his run at Ascot was really good as well. Have backed him at 3/1 for the race and will no doubt add some roll ups for cheltenham too.
 
Craigy14 said:
I definitely like the angle on Golden Pal then gjt :encouragement:

Watched the clip of his Saratoga win and obviously his run at Ascot was really good as well. Have backed him at 3/1 for the race and will no doubt add some roll ups for cheltenham too.
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Well I sure hope he comes good for us both and anyone else who’s on board, you get these horses every now and again that you have a strong feeling about and after listening to Wesley ward talk for a whole hour it only boosted my confidence in the horse!!
 
Saxon Warrior said:
Yes, I tend to look ahead to the BC for the US runners, and took Tiz The Law at 6/1 for the BC Classic.
Fingers crossed for his Kentucky Derby run at the weekend.
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Me too, got a tasty double on Gamine and Tiz the law, both at 6/1, backed on the day before their last wins, they would inevitably be shortened after wining, and they duly won, can’t see an issue again with Tiz the law this weekend, proper test for Gamine though, just drew gate 5 so has a decent enough draw with Swiss skydiver drawn on the rail in 1, breeders cup falls on my birthday weekend every year so it’s a meet I like to target
 
parimutuel said:
Breeders cup juvenile fillies

No evidence that either will go, yet alone get the trip but they look very exciting.

Thoughtfully @ 6/1 Backed her a few weeks ago in her second race and she didn't disappoint. 7's around.

Princess Noor @ 6/1 She is a monster. Impressive debut win. 7's and 8's around.
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Illumination @ 33/1 Added before tonight's Del Mar Debutante Stakes where Princess Noor is also running.
 
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