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Ballymore Novice Hurdle 2019

BigChaang said:
Just said the same Jon , on the supreme thread.
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Its not just me then? haha.
He won very well over 2m 4 and the distance looked spot on to me, but obviously he knows best. I may have to cover him for the Supreme now. Hes only 8/1 any race
 
jonthehammer said:
Don't really understand that Mullins quite about TF saying I am not sure I want to go 2 and half when that is what he won over that the other day. "Ill stick to 2 miles"??? Well dropping back from 2m 4f isn't sticking to 2 miles is it. Mullins bingo well and truly begun!!!
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Willie has always said he doesn't mind what trip they run in for their maidens, it's after that that matters, i.e. the better races etc....

So from that you could decipher that in him running TF in Supreme, if he makes it to the festival.
 
Trainers just need to get their horses out.

As already stated, the trip in a maiden will most probably have no bearing on the festival target.
 
jonthehammer said:
Don't really understand that Mullins quite about TF saying I am not sure I want to go 2 and half when that is what he won over that the other day. "Ill stick to 2 miles"??? Well dropping back from 2m 4f isn't sticking to 2 miles is it. Mullins bingo well and truly begun!!!
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What COD said.
 
Will be interesting to see If late money comes for game face in the 1.05 at Newbury, given his ptp form.
 
Scooby91 said:
Will be interesting to see If late money comes for game face in the 1.05 at Newbury, given his ptp form.
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One I have backed today Scooby, fully based on his PTP form over the others in the race. Suspect trip may be too short today but he's a fair e/way price.
 
Thought Rathhill looked pretty good today.

He was beaten by a Supreme horse in his point Derby debut, whilst Derby was having his 3rd start. I suspect Rathhill will turn out much the best

Henderson pointed out he's hard to get fit but has plenty of gears- i suspect he'd probably end up here + while i won't bother punting him now, he'd be on my shortlist alright.
 
jack1092 said:
Thought Rathhill looked pretty good today.

He was beaten by a Supreme horse in his point Derby debut, whilst Derby was having his 3rd start. I suspect Rathhill will turn out much the best

Henderson pointed out he's hard to get fit but has plenty of gears- i suspect he'd probably end up here + while i won't bother punting him now, he'd be on my shortlist alright.
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he mentioned the tolworth for him
 
Anyone have positive or negative views on Kateson for this?

I rate Tom Lacey, but he is inexperienced as a trainer, has only had the 8 runners @ the course in the past, but managed a winner and a place. As for the horse itself, his dam ran in the Bartlett @ the festival in 2010 but was beat out of sight. There is stamina in the pedigree on both sides, but Kateson is not short of speed too so this race rather than the Bartlett may be a better option, if they decide to turn up at the festival at all.

SkyBet go 33's, 365 25's & PP only go 16's, bit of a difference of opinion there from the bookmakers.
 
Outside of Cheltenham and Punchestown, Kateson ran in two of the best bumpers last season (Ascot and Aintree) so he’s got some form from last season. He’s had a fairly low key start this season so it’s hard to know how me may progress and his odds will always be generous due to the smaller stable.
 
I’ve nibbled at the exchanges for him in this

People typically rate the Aintree bumper as a race that brings plenty of good form and Kateson came 2nd in it and has won twice over hurdles since so I’m surprised at the lack of mention for him. Hasn’t beaten much but the 2nd in his last race came out and won by 10 lengths (@1/6) so not the strongest form lines yet
 
It looks like Blackbow maybe taking on Battleoverdoyen in the Lawlor Novice Hurdle.
 
Chris said:
It looks like Blackbow maybe taking on Battleoverdoyen in the Lawlor Novice Hurdle.
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Why's that Chris?

I've not seen Blackbow mentioned for a bit, has Willie said he's a contender?

Would be surprising to see him start a horse in that race regardless of how the grounds been... a grade 1 on debut oiver hurdles would be very rare?
 
Kevloaf said:
Why's that Chris?

I've not seen Blackbow mentioned for a bit, has Willie said he's a contender?

Would be surprising to see him start a horse in that race regardless of how the grounds been... a grade 1 on debut oiver hurdles would be very rare?
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He's definitely done it a couple of times before.
I think that looking at most of the novice hurdle events in Ireland so far, Willie would have every right to think that Gordon's aren't up to much (so far). That's certainly what I've deduced.
 
Pont Alexandre first time out vs The DON. stands out a mile as the DON has as big a reputation at the time as Samcro.
Then there was one that died and can't remember it
 
quevega said:
Pont Alexandre first time out vs The DON. stands out a mile as the DON has as big a reputation at the time as Samcro.
Then there was one that died and can't remember it
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Allez colombieres
 
quevega said:
Pont Alexandre first time out vs The DON. stands out a mile as the DON has as big a reputation at the time as Samcro.
Then there was one that died and can't remember it
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Allez Colombieres indeed. Very highly rated.

This season, the ground has been so quick that he's just happy to get them out when he can as long as he thinks they can cope. He wouldn't normally have multiple runners in maiden hurdles and bumpers but it's likely to be the case for the next few weeks.
Everything is worked back from the spring festivals so, by and large, the ideal is a run in the next couple of weeks and another in the first half of February
 
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