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Arkle 2020

Middle_Of_March said:
As someone who’s been on Samcro since way before his fencing debut, please please PLEASE DON’T say things like that.
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Sorry ......... but he’s my banker of the meeting.
Never right last year, time for redemption and onto the gold cup 2021
 
Scooby91 said:
Without getting in to a big debate. Just out of interest.

In your opinion, What has she achieved to think that's not her running in a champion hurdle?
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Just experience and visuals again Scooby, don't need to go into scientific stuff, not my style. She simply was not the same horse in the Churdle. Went out like a light. Didn't run again after which is a huge pointer. The fact I backed her to win the Churdle at all rates from 25's down has nothing to do with it either................man sits in armchair crying again
 
Personally I think Mullins sees Laurina as his arkle horse after debut said he would like to go back to see what she can do and thinks she would be even better going quicker not long to wait and see! I know pundits need to be taken with a pinch of salt sometimes but Kevin Blake put her up for the arkle obviously done a stable tour at Closutton and spoke with people in the know anything can happen and plans can change but for me Laurina is Mullins arkle horse
 
Arkle said:
Personally I think Mullins sees Laurina as his arkle horse after debut said he would like to go back to see what she can do and thinks she would be even better going quicker not long to wait and see! I know pundits need to be taken with a pinch of salt sometimes but Kevin Blake put her up for the arkle obviously done a stable tour at Closutton and spoke with people in the know anything can happen and plans can change but for me Laurina is Mullins arkle horse
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Still think Melon will turn out to be his best horse in this race albeit not the winner.
 
Lobos said:
His previous festival form and Laurina going JLT
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The Laurina part is guesswork, but even at that, right now- you could argue Melon's debut is very good form having given weight to Fakir.

Many seem to be writing Melon off because he was beat by Fakir.

I personally doubt Laurina runs at xmas.
 
Looking at Sully D'oc Aa, to boost the form of Fanion D'estruval here.

Have backed accordingly too.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Looking at Sully D'oc Aa, to boost the form of Fanion D'estruval here.

Have backed accordingly too.
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Didn't go to plan.

Hard to say the Fanion form line is no good after that as The Flying Sofa finished closer there and he was 14 odd lengths behind Fanion, just think Sully had an off day
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Didn't go to plan.

Hard to say the Fanion form line is no good after that as The Flying Sofa finished closer there and he was 14 odd lengths behind Fanion, just think Sully had an off day
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or flying sofa had an off day the time before ?
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Didn't go to plan.

Hard to say the Fanion form line is no good after that as The Flying Sofa finished closer there and he was 14 odd lengths behind Fanion, just think Sully had an off day
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Wouldn't worry too much as in weekender stable tour iv'e just read Honeybollocks basically says looking to get another run into him then aim him at any hcap they choose. Jp what do you expect :very_drunk:
 
quevega said:
https://www.attheraces.com/racecard/Leopardstown/26-December-2019/1420

Just saying in RSA thread.
If Willie really likes Laurina, he should run in the race boxing day.
A convincing win and she goes very short and it's hers to lose I reckon.
Possibly 6/4 ish maybe.
The weight turnaround if she defeats Fakir would be very persuasive.
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She is running. Should win comfortably if she's an arkle winner .

Fakir is over rated on both runs imo, he would have been easily dispatched by samcro even with the allowance. Come march if hes beaten and sent back up in trip off levels, I cant see any way he reverses.
 
Scooby91 said:
She is running. Should win comfortably if she's an arkle winner .

Fakir is over rated on both runs imo, he would have been easily dispatched by samcro even with the allowance. Come march if hes beaten and sent back up in trip off levels, I cant see any way he reverses.
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Not sure it'll be that straightforward for her, as she's probably up against the best two jumpers we've seen in Ireland, and last time she coasted round at half speed. We know what happened in the champion when they went like the clappers from the off.
 
quevega said:
Not sure it'll be that straightforward for her, as she's probably up against the best two jumpers we've seen in Ireland, and last time she coasted round at half speed. We know what happened in the champion when they went like the clappers from the off.
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Iv backed note Book at 50s but fully expect he'll get stuffed here 10L +. Laurina should stalk fakir and basically do what samcro was going to do, and go past him on the bridle. I don't think she'll win far but I don't think townend will have to get stuck into her and see what she has off the bridle at all. She is very questionable off the bridle. But shouldn't have to get the kitchen sink out here.
 
Scooby91 said:
Iv backed note Book at 50s but fully expect he'll get stuffed here 10L +. Laurina should stalk fakir and basically do what samcro was going to do, and go past him on the bridle. I don't think she'll win far but I don't think townend will have to get stuck into her and see what she has off the bridle at all. She is very questionable off the bridle. But shouldn't have to get the kitchen sink out here.
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Think you may be underestimating the value of good jumping.
The pressure it can put on others is often undervalued.
Rhythm is a dancer.
 
quevega said:
Think you may be underestimating the value of good jumping.
The pressure it can put on others is often undervalued.
Rhythm is a dancer.
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I'd agree with that, I do. I'm far more worried about the engine than a horse making a mistake etc... hence why I was so keen on ABP. And still am. But it dosent always work out that way.

I'll be delighted if notebook can go anywhere near. I genuinely think he'll be stuffed 10L plus. Was Worth a shot And no harm done.
 
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