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Arkle 2020

Yeah the 33 is too big for me so i’ll have another go if it loses no harm done
 
Muswell said:
Yeah the 33 is too big for me so i’ll have another go if it loses no harm done
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I'm following you on that one. Everybody should take 33's. Absolute giveaway.
 
archie said:
Basically, if you've backed either for next March you wouldn't cash out. If you hadn't backed them previously, you wouldn't be rushing to back them now either.
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Disagree personally with second part as do loads of others on here but each to their own. I thought it was a very good trial from GT especially being from the PN stable who are notoriously slow at this time of year.
 
archie said:
Basically, if you've backed either for next March you wouldn't cash out. If you hadn't backed them previously, you wouldn't be rushing to back them now either.
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My sentiments exactly Archie, the winner is opening his account at Uttoxeter next Friday in the Kalahari King Beginners Chase according to Olly Murphy :devilish:
 
archie said:
Basically, if you've backed either for next March you wouldn't cash out. If you hadn't backed them previously, you wouldn't be rushing to back them now either.
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I’ve watched the race back and will hold fire. At present I would agree with your statement but we’re still early in the season and a lot can change.
 
archie said:
Basically, if you've backed either for next March you wouldn't cash out. If you hadn't backed them previously, you wouldn't be rushing to back them now either.
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Or
If you've backed AD @33s with cashout, your well ahead of the game in the arkle, your free rolling all the way to chelt, and there wont be a stage (bar injury) where you cant cash for money back. If he wins next time out, your on a 7/1 shot @33s


If anyone backed Getaway trump with PP (still 12/1) Then I'd be snapping there hand off to cash for money back or anywhere near it.
Theres no positives in getting beaten 1st time up, however its sugar coated.
 
Al Dancer has 30+ lengths to find on Thomas Darby based on there Supreme performance! Given that Al Dancer is 12/1 in places now what price is TD if he proves he can jump fences aswell. Granted that race today is likely to be deeper than whatever lines up at Uttoxeter.
 
I agree Sean. TD is still a nice price that will definitely contract once he wins on debut. I've backed him with the bookmakers already but he is also my next on the list to trade off on the exchanges. Because it will happen, should he be able to jump a fence.
 
Nice 1st run over fences for Al. Can only get better in imo.Happy to have it on my side @ 33's
 
somer1 said:
Nice 1st run over fences for Al. Can only get better in imo.Happy to have it on my side @ 33's
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I was there today and although AD appeared to win well the one to take from the race was the second.
Never put in the race, never closer than 8l to the leader and never asked for any sort of effort until after the last and was beaten just 4l, no doubt ridden to orders which raises any number of questions but if the Skeltons want to win with him before a plot the talent is certainly there....
 
33s is a nice price to have on Al Dancer but if you don't rate Getaway Trump I'd be concerned that GT seemed to be travelling all over AD coming round the bend despite making a mistake 3 out and after making the mistake 2 out and clearly having little left in the tank was given an easy time by Cobden. Meanwhile Sam Twiston-Davies was giving it the kitchen sink on AD. I'm not knocking AD and have backed him myself at 33s, but if you don't rate GT then you can't really rate it a great performance.
 
Istabraq said:
I was there today and although AD appeared to win well the one to take from the race was the second.
Never put in the race, never closer than 8l to the leader and never asked for any sort of effort until after the last and was beaten just 4l, no doubt ridden to orders which raises any number of questions but if the Skeltons want to win with him before a plot the talent is certainly there....
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I had similar thoughts and it may also just reflect the pace the front runners went, and the easier ride given to skeltons may have helped it run more economically.
Trump seemed to travel and not find anything, which appears to mirror some of nichols other runners recently and also Trumps early season runs last year.
Al Dancer looked to have ran a decent race and was getting tired (but also, as the trainer said, may have needed it)
None of them impressed me, but we'll see next time as it's early doors.
 
Interesting you say that Ista I had him in the tracker last season hoping for a good season over the smaller obstacles but he flattered to deceive after looking promising in his bumper.

Could the good looking run be down to a race fitness edge?
 
Not the first time Getaway Trump has been travelling all over rivals and not won.

The further the better for him.
 
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