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2025 Ryanair Chase

Allaho type performance that from him. He'll take a lot of beating again in March. That was outstanding.
 
I think it was Q that was banging the Protektorat drum a month or so back at 25/1. Good shout :smile-new:
 
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He's still value IMO at 10-1 NRNB.
Be very surprised if Dan is not wanting to give him a break now and then run here.
With all the doubts about the others ahead of him in the market, if Fact to File goes gold cup then I'd say he would be near favourite (probably second best to the Townend/Mullins choice)

Related double with fact to file probably value also.
 
Quevega said:
He's still value IMO at 10-1 NRNB.
Be very surprised if Dan is not wanting to give him a break now and then run here.
With all the doubts about the others ahead of him in the market, if Fact to File goes gold cup then I'd say he would be near favourite (probably second best to the Townend/Mullins choice)

Related double with fact to file probably value also.
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12/1 without the NRNB - which is fair enough

Dan on SSR said he had 2 targets this year, today and Cheltenham (obviously)

Straight there now
 
'Related double with fact to file probably value also.'

How are they related ??
 
Some NRNB markets have the chance of a favoured horse not running factored in. in fact most do these days.
However this Ryanair market is harder for them as there are so many doubts as to which of the Mullins horses will turn up.
If only one of the four turn up then Protektorat is a shorter SP than 10-1.
If Fact to File doesn't turn up then he is also shorter than 10-1 SP. IMO.
Even if Fact to File turns up and Il est Francais and one other Mullins horse I don't think 10-1 will be too bad a price.

So the relation is the value, you'd likely get if Fact to File goes Gold Cup or doesn't run at all.
This would be increased even further if Galopin does not run in the Gold cup and fact to file does.

A handy bet if anyone does not have fact to file backed yet and are waiting till the day.
You might not need to bother if Prot does the business.
 
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12/1 without the NRNB - which is fair enough

Dan on SSR said he had 2 targets this year, today and Cheltenham (obviously)

Straight there now
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Can still get 14s on sky in their without NRNB which looks very fair. Feel he’s one where NRNB cover isn’t a necessity due to his target being very clear.
 
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Can still get 14s on sky in their without NRNB which looks very fair. Feel he’s one where NRNB cover isn’t a necessity due to his target being very clear.
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Yeah, completely agree and good spot

I can't get on with Sky or I'd cash and take that price

He'll be single figures on the day

Wil lbe horrified if Fact To File ends up here as well

The GDC to win the Irish Gold Cup and F2F for this double is worth considering
 
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Very nice performance, though I would worry whether today was his race. Skelton's are after the Trainers Title and the David Power Cup thing so appear to be targeting valuable races through the season. Cheltenham is the most valuable but also the hardest to win. You get slightly more money today than for runner up in a Ryanair (According to last years Ryanair figures). He will go to Cheltenham with a shout again, but fearful this will take too much to recover from. Though, on the positive side, he has also been pretty consistent and followed up his 3rd in the Denman Chase last year on heavy ground in February with the Ryanair win. Good luck to him.
 
Willie on El Fabiolo (talking about the DRF):

"El Fabiolo did a nice bit of work yesterday, but he hasn't been himself to my satisfaction this season. He's a little more difficult to train, but I hope to get a run into him and we'll see where we are at in the last quarter of the season. We've a few festivals to go to yet."

Gives me the impression that Cheltenham may be part of the plan but not the be all and end all and in fact may end up using it to get him ready for a festival after that.
 
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Willie on El Fabiolo (talking about the DRF):

"El Fabiolo did a nice bit of work yesterday, but he hasn't been himself to my satisfaction this season. He's a little more difficult to train, but I hope to get a run into him and we'll see where we are at in the last quarter of the season. We've a few festivals to go to yet."

Gives me the impression that Cheltenham may be part of the plan but not the be all and end all and in fact may end up using it to get him ready for a festival after that.
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History has had this happen a few times IMO

Very loose with the truth
 
I think Fil Dor is worth a tickle at 80s NRNB EW. Unlikely to win the race but would have a fair place chance at about 15/2 if, as expected, the race cuts up. There are larger priced horses in the places in this race reasonably often and I think the 80s would likely look big on the day if he turns up (went off last year at 28s). You may well be able to lay the win part if it's not wanted and you have the NRNB protection.

For those who are book-building and already have Fact To File, Protektorat and others at nice prices, this seems to be the right time to get this guy covered.
 
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