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2024 Stayers Hurdle

Looking at the current Stayers betting, if we take IEP (Going CH) out, Sir G sits joint 4th fav and the first in the list of Mullins horses.

I agree that sir g is more likely than Gaelic to run in it, my original post was just in reply to what would happen if Gaelic didn't take to fences, in that case I think he'd be more likely to run in it than sir g, and probably go back to being one of the faves as he was when everyone thought he was staying over hurdles.
 
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How about applying common sense to the stayers market and looking at the obvious.
id rather have Christopher Biggins over Tyson fury in a fist fight than thinking sir gerhard or Gaelic warrior will even turn up let alone win a stayers hurdle.

Seriously. I'm keeping this one !
 
Leading owner Chris Giles knows a Grade 1 horse when he has one and is convinced Crambo will win the ?125,000 Betfair "Serial Winners" Stayers' Handicap Hurdle (2.20) at Haydock on Saturday and announce himself a serious contender for the Stayers' Hurdle.

Giles shares ownership of the exciting Fergal O'Brien-trained prospect with Jared Sullivan, with whom he also owned Grade 1 winners Zarkandar and Silviniaco Conti. His famous pink and purple silks have also been carried by the likes of Greaneteen and Stay Away Fay, and he is confident the progressive Crambo will shorten for Cheltenham Festival glory after the handicap hurdle. He has already backed him at 33-1 for the Stayers'.

Crambo won the valuable EBF Final at Sandown last season and returned to action with a smooth victory in the same race Paisley Park won at Aintree before taking Saturday's contest, the Long Walk, Cleeve and Stayers' in a spectacular season in 2018-19, and Giles is full of belief Crambo can chart a similar path to the festival
​Giles thinks the six-year-old should be well suited to the demands of the staying hurdle division and said: "I think the world of him and in terms of scope and size he's quite like Paisley Park. He's a lovely looking horse and quite compact.

"I love his attitude and the way he travels. He's a beautiful jumper and it's a struggle to find faults – he's definitely one of my favourite horses. He's versatile but he won the EBF Final on really quite heavy ground, so the juice in conditions at Haydock should suit him. He's had excuses for both of his Grade 1 flops and at Aintree he was hampered at a crucial stage of the race.

"You wouldn't be frightened of anything in the current division if you owned an up-and-coming horse. Fergal would probably have favoured going the Pertemps route this season but fortune favours the brave and you've got to grasp the nettle."

He added: "About two or three weeks ago I backed him at 33s for the Stayers' with Sky Bet, but I was limited. I'm thinking about trying to get another ?250 on him each-way because he's going to be 10s or 12s if he wins on Saturday.
​Giles, who suggested Sandown on December 8 is "set in stone" for Stay Away Fay's next start, also provided a positive update on sidelined three-time Grade 1 winner Greaneteen, who he believes is an "outside bet that shouldn't be ignored" in the Champion Chase. He is a 50-1 chance for the day two highlight with Paddy Power, having finished fourth in the 2021 running and third in March despite making a bad mistake.​
Of the Paul Nicholls-trained chaser, he said: "Greaneteen is sidelined with a fractured pelvis. He was given a wind operation in the summer as we thought he was struggling with his wind after the won the Haldon Gold Cup and he could go straight to the Champion Chase.

"We still think he's a great two-miler – he travels and he likes Cheltenham. I'm still very excited by him, he's lightly raced, he's only going to be nine going on ten and there's still a lot of juice there. Paul is going to have him as fit as a fiddle.

"It was great to see Jonbon the other day. He's obviously a super horse and he could be the next Sprinter Sacre, but the two-mile division tires these horses out. Greaneteen goes well fresh and I think he's an outside bet that shouldn't be ignored

An article from the racing post

If you're a backer of crambo you just have to love the bullishness of chris giles.
I'm not saying that it always comes to fruition but it gives you that extra bit of hope...... until at least saturday.
 
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That's a great read. Wish owners/trainers were all as open and honest as that. Jonbon the next Sprinter !!
 
I know it has been said multiple times but this race looks wide open to a long shot winner. I don't really like any of those at the head of the betting. Spent some time trawling through the longer odds horses and I have put my money down on both CRAMBO at 33/1 and BUDDY ONE at 25/1. Previously bet SIR GERHARD at 25/1. Now I am going to walk away from this race of a few months or I might just find another few. If the Frenchie wins I'll be gutted !!!!! :unconscious::unconscious:​:unconscious::unconscious:
 
I know it has been said multiple times but this race looks wide open to a long shot winner. I don't really like any of those at the head of the betting. Spent some time trawling through the longer odds horses and I have put my money down on both CRAMBO at 33/1 and BUDDY ONE at 25/1. Previously bet SIR GERHARD at 25/1. Now I am going to walk away from this race of a few months or I might just find another few. If the Frenchie wins I'll be gutted !!!!! :unconscious::unconscious:​:unconscious::unconscious:

I've backed crambo wtaf, he should be winning this if he's gonna be in the mix at the festival, i reckon.
 
Crambo got going way too late there. Stayed on very strongly. Still hoping he can be there or thereabouts in March.
 
Crambo got going way too late there. Stayed on very strongly. Still hoping he can be there or thereabouts in March.

Jockey had him way too far behind, first try at 3 miles i can understand the caution but the way he won at sandown in heavy ground over 2 1/2 miles he should've been ridden prominent
 
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He was still just 5 behind turning in, I'd say he probably just got caught out for Slate Lane kicking on as he hit the straight, wouldn't dampen too many stayers bets though imo
 
not a chance
giving 12lbs to an emmet mullins rogue
finishing like a train
stayers hurdle all the way lobos

Trainer wants to go that route. They normally get their way.
 
Trainer wants to go that route. They normally get their way.

Trainer probably wouldve preferred that route at the start of the season.
lobos that was an impressive run
he's give 12lbs and 15lbs to the front two who are not 124 and 127 horses
he's been given an absolute shocking ride
I will make my full case within due course
 
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You think the result there will dissuade the owner from wanting to go stayers route ?

Edit-should've said thats to Lobos.