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2024 Gold Cup

Is anyone else thinking about Datsalrightgino for the Gold Cup after his impressive Hennessy win? Obviously he came from some way back to win at his first try over an extended trip. Connections initially mentioned the Grand National but, given he has risen to OR159, are now looking at either the Cotswold Chase or even a King George supplemental entry. Most of the fancy exchange prices have been taken but 66s is available in a place. I think there are worse outsiders than an improving 7yo who has course form and has come on for a trip.
 
Evesham Road said:
Is anyone else thinking about Datsalrightgino for the Gold Cup after his impressive Hennessy win? Obviously he came from some way back to win at his first try over an extended trip. Connections initially mentioned the Grand National but, given he has risen to OR159, are now looking at either the Cotswold Chase or even a King George supplemental entry. Most of the fancy exchange prices have been taken but 66s is available in a place. I think there are worse outsiders than an improving 7yo who has course form and has come on for a trip.
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Not for me.

Beating Mahler Mission off levels by 3 3/4 lengths is plenty off what is required in a Gold Cup. Just for some context, Eldorado Allen finished 37 lengths behind Galopin Des Champs in last seasons Gold Cup off levels, and Datsalrightgino beat him by 12 1/2 lengths in the race at the weekend getting 6lbs from him.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Not for me.

Beating Mahler Mission off levels by 3 3/4 lengths is plenty off what is required in a Gold Cup. Just for some context, Eldorado Allen finished 37 lengths behind Galopin Des Champs in last seasons Gold Cup off levels, and Datsalrightgino beat him by 12 1/2 lengths in the race at the weekend getting 6lbs from him.
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Thanks for the reply, but my point wasn't the bare form (decent as it is), more the trajectory of the form of a horse who would appear to be improving as a second-season chaser and especially for a trip.

In any case, the other horse in the top four at the weekend was Monbeg Genius, who Datsalrightgino beat 10 lengths, giving him a pound. That same horse was beaten only two lengths in last season's Ultima by Corach Rambler, in receipt of six pounds. So using that form line, Datsalrightgino is two poiunds better than Corach Rambler, who you have backed at 20s...
 
Evesham Road said:
Thanks for the reply, but my point wasn't the bare form (decent as it is), more the trajectory of the form of a horse who would appear to be improving as a second-season chaser and especially for a trip.

In any case, the other horse in the top four at the weekend was Monbeg Genius, who Datsalrightgino beat 10 lengths, giving him a pound. That same horse was beaten only two lengths in last season's Ultima by Corach Rambler, in receipt of six pounds. So using that form line, Datsalrightgino is two poiunds better than Corach Rambler, who you have backed at 20s...
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Corach Rambler was backed on the basis of his Cheltenham form in general. Think he's 3 from 3 at the course. I still think he's worth backing even off the back of his disappointing runs this season.

Datsalrightgino was PU in the Plate last season. Of course, it is conceivable that he finds plenty of improvement for the step up in trip, but based on the one run in the Hennessy that you yourself have used, off a mark of 148, I just can't be having him.

What price is he, out of interest?
 
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Evesham Road said:
Is anyone else thinking about Datsalrightgino for the Gold Cup after his impressive Hennessy win? Obviously he came from some way back to win at his first try over an extended trip. Connections initially mentioned the Grand National but, given he has risen to OR159, are now looking at either the Cotswold Chase or even a King George supplemental entry. Most of the fancy exchange prices have been taken but 66s is available in a place. I think there are worse outsiders than an improving 7yo who has course form and has come on for a trip.
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Think he was favoured by the way the race was run plus being a horse likely held up is very hard in a Gold Cup. More chance they try get his mark down as much as possible for a tilt at the Ultima in my view which is a race Corach Rambler has managed to win twice despite being ridden patiently. Anyway, I have come round to the idea of Mahler Mission being worth a bet in the Gold Cup at 50/1. Won't bore too much on this thread as to why but he had a lot go against him in the Coral Gold Cup so did incredibly well to finish as close as he did. Needs to improve around a stone, but that is possible as a 7yo when racing in graded company at his correct trip.
 
Evesham Road said:
Is anyone else thinking about Datsalrightgino for the Gold Cup after his impressive Hennessy win? Obviously he came from some way back to win at his first try over an extended trip. Connections initially mentioned the Grand National but, given he has risen to OR159, are now looking at either the Cotswold Chase or even a King George supplemental entry. Most of the fancy exchange prices have been taken but 66s is available in a place. I think there are worse outsiders than an improving 7yo who has course form and has come on for a trip.
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I took the 66/1 with Unibet ER. It's much too big for a horse that surely has to go there now. It won't be a deep Gold Cup, and he's the just the sort of progressive type that can do well. Clearly very unexposed over 3 miles plus, and he got the trip very well at Newbury. They can ride him more forward next time and that should mean there's more to come. I also used the same formline logic as you to justify a bet.
 
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I took the 66/1 with Unibet ER. It's much too big for a horse that surely has to go there now. It won't be a deep Gold Cup, and he's the just the sort of progressive type that can do well. Clearly very unexposed over 3 miles plus, and he got the trip very well at Newbury. They can ride him more forward next time and that should mean there's more to come. I also used the same formline logic as you to justify a bet.
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Yeah I just think there's a good chance he goes to the Cotswold and that race isn't always the deepest; a win there and he's probably 16s and being touted as possibly 'best of the British' and 'the improver'. I'm happy to take, and have taken, a chance at this stage.
 
Mouse Morris has been forced to rule Gentlemansgame out of his Christmas objective in the Savills Chase at Leopardstown due to a minor foot injury.
 
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Mouse Morris has been forced to rule Gentlemansgame out of his Christmas objective in the Savills Chase at Leopardstown due to a minor foot injury.
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Gerri may run savilles then you'd think, explains why he's drifted for the KG.
 
Would Gordon want Gerri want to be running against galopin prior to the festival?
 
Lobos said:
Yep.

GMG to Cotswold Chase
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Is there any benefit in Mouse sending him over for a race they never target ?
DRF a week or two later ?
Can't remember the last Irish runner in the race...
 
Istabraq said:
Is there any benefit in Mouse sending him over for a race they never target ?
DRF a week or two later ?
Can't remember the last Irish runner in the race...
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I’ve just read that it’s either Cotswold or DRF.
Really hope this doesn’t hamper his chances too much, big player for me and overpriced imo.
 
Still think GDC will end up going to Tramore.
 
Gerri skipping KG to run in Savilles
 
Lobos said:
Gerri skipping KG to run in Savilles
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Skipping the easier race to clash with GDS and Fastorslow

Savills better than the Gold Cup then! One bubble burst at least



Fantastic :applouse:
 
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