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archie said:
The nature of PtPs is that they cater for stores on their way to racing under rules. As such, a PtP mare is unlikely to be sharp enough for the MNH and most of the successful 2m mares will have come from France with earlier racing experience. Of course, Honeysuckle might have changed that stat if she'd gone in 2019.
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Do you think that's changing at all? The only French bred in the top 5 this year (Halka Du Tabert) was also the only PTP graduate. The other 4 were all British or Irish bred. Also, the recent runnings have seemed to favour a horse who stays further.
 
Letsbeclearaboutit entered next Thursday in a beginners chase at Tipperary over 3 miles. Entered with a few from Gordon like Maxxum.

4th in the AB and could be one for the NHC being out at this time of year
 
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Exar Essay said:
Do you think that's changing at all? The only French bred in the top 5 this year (Halka Du Tabert) was also the only PTP graduate. The other 4 were all British or Irish bred. Also, the recent runnings have seemed to favour a horse who stays further.
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I think that it's changing to the extent that the extended mares programme has persuaded breeders to look beyond the classic NH pedigree for mares. Also, the new 3yo NH bred programme has meant a new market in 2yo stores so breeders are looking towards more precocious types for that. All takes time of course but possibly the process is starting to move on.
 
….looks like IEP pushed out to 5-1 with Hills for CH after that win. Presume that might be something to do with the post race interview? State Man staying hurdling according to Mullins.
 
Eggs said:
….looks like IEP pushed out to 5-1 with Hills for CH after that win. Presume that might be something to do with the post race interview? State Man staying hurdling according to Mullins.
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IMO IEP wouldn't beat State Man over 2 miles.Cant see Willie sending them both down the CH route.
 
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Reasonable form boosts all round there in the bumper. Irish Point and Qauntum Storm (for Ballyburn) and He’s My Hero (for Mirazur West).

He’s My Hero didn’t really seem to see out the trip oddly.
 
Exar Essay said:
Reasonable form boosts all round there in the bumper. Irish Point and Qauntum Storm (for Ballyburn) and He’s My Hero (for Mirazur West).

He’s My Hero didn’t really seem to see out the trip oddly.
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I’d say He’s My Hero was inconvenienced, like a few, by what seemed like a sedate pace. Not sure he didn’t stay, just didn’t have the legs for a sprint finish.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
I’d say He’s My Hero was inconvenienced, like a few, by what seemed like a sedate pace. Not sure he didn’t stay, just didn’t have the legs for a sprint finish.
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Fair that. Was an oddly run race.
 
Exar Essay said:
Reasonable form boosts all round there in the bumper. Irish Point and Qauntum Storm (for Ballyburn) and He’s My Hero (for Mirazur West).

He’s My Hero didn’t really seem to see out the trip oddly.
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Shannon Royale too, Jamie Codd put him up as one to watch in bumpers that would excel over obstacles. Obviously have to forgive the Fairyhouse flop but I’ve chanced 33/1 in the Ballymore!
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
Watching jonbon thump the open company horses despite some poor jumping just makes me think that el fabiolo is a good thing

One to be a cornerstone in my multis i think
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Indeed, El Fab has a serious engine. Do you think there's any chance they send Energumene to the Ryainair if all is well with Fab and he continues to improve. If it doesn't come up very soft for Energumene then the CC is El Fabs for the taking Imo.
 
Monty's Pass said:
Indeed, El Fab has a serious engine. Do you think there's any chance they send Energumene to the Ryainair if all is well with Fab and he continues to improve. If it doesn't come up very soft for Energumene then the CC is El Fabs for the taking Imo.
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Almost no chance that they don't go for a 3rd consecutive queen mother I'd think
 
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….I presume that’s Maxxum qualified for NHC. Bet365 have cut to 25-1 from 33-1.
 
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Eggs said:
….I presume that’s Maxxum qualified for NHC. Bet365 have cut to 25-1 from 33-1.
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Yep. And the 3 behind him.

Thinking about it....they all need another run over fences don't they ???
 
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Eggs said:
….I presume that’s Maxxum qualified for NHC. Bet365 have cut to 25-1 from 33-1.
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The RP comments begin “Didn’t jump well …” Will have to watch back later.
 
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Lobos said:
Yep. And the 3 behind him.

Thinking about it....they all need another run over fences don't they ???
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I'm hoping they'll have time to squeeze another race in :congratulatory:, and there were only 3 finishers.
 
I think some of you are mad at times! :eagerness:

Not a mission you could back that in a NHC
 
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