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2023 Stayers Hurdle

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All things Stayers Hurdle related, here….

Current Odds (top prices):
Flooring Porter 5/1
Buzz 12/1
Klassical Dream 12/1
The Nice Guy 14/1
Bob Olinger 16/1
Maries Rock 16/1
20/1 bar

TO CLOSE BY NOON ON JANUARY 10th with supplementary entries on March 10th
CHELTENHAM Thursday, March 16th THE PADDY POWER STAYERS’ HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1) (Grade 1) (GBB RACE) TOTAL RACE VALUE ?325,000 Distributed in accordance with the Stakes and Prize Money Code
?182,877 to the winning horse
The second to receive ?68,900,
the third ?34,482,
the fourth ?17,225,
the ffth ?8,645
the sixth ?4,322,
the seventh ?2,145
the eighth ?1,105
for four yrs old and upwards, which are allotted a rating or an assessment of 130 or more by the BHA Handicapper, taking account of races run up to and including the day prior to confrmation about THREE MILES (2m 7f 213yds) Enter by noon, January 10th and pay ?405 stake Scratch by noon, February 7th or pay ?810 Confrm by noon, March 10th and pay ?405 Supplementary Entry by noon, March 10th and pay ?14,787 stake Declare by 10.00 a.m. March 14th
Weights: 4-y-o..........10st 9lb;
5-y-o and up.............11st 10lb
Fillies and mares allowed............... 7lb
 
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Buzz just starting very light exercise but not back at yard for a while. Owner expects him to be back between 6 months and a year.
 
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Harry Fry says Might I will NOT be going chasing this season but will instead have one further season over the smaller obstacles and target the Stayers Hurdle. One of the top Novice Hurdlers last season with really good back form, a very consistent sort finishing a well beaten but respectful 2nd to the imperious Constitution Hill when sent off fav , giving weight, at Sandown , Also placed behind Jonbon at Haydock and Three striped Life at Aintree he is looking to exploit an open Staying Division this coming season.
Flooring Porter for me wins again but MI looks a decent EW alternative in a particularly weak/open looking year.
 
Looks a very weak division at this point. Will be interesting to see which failed/delayed chasers rock up here in March.
 
isitmarchyet said:
Looks a very weak division at this point. Will be interesting to see which failed/delayed chasers rock up here in March.
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Not so much a failed chaser, but has never looked a natural, so my first guess would be Bob Olinger.
 
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Got FLOORING PORTER paying out a few quid and in quite a few doubles and trebles
Tough to beat, a solid favourite and target is this race
Love a repeat offender
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Not so much a failed chaser, but has never looked a natural, so my first guess would be Bob Olinger.
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Yeah, good shout. Another one in the back of my mind is Appreciate It. Bit of a longshot but if his chasing campaign gets delayed for any reason again or just isn't successful I could see him being aimed here. Always been suggested he'd need a trip...
 
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Flooring Porter is still the right age so difficult to look past him at present. If last season is anything to go by though there might be opportunities to grab him at bigger prices. He was the pre-season standout at 6's and 7/1 of all the likely ones across the card though so had to be got on board. Will take any mid-season falters as top up opportunities. Loves the place and got one of the rides of the festival this year so a lovely little combo.
 
Vanillier potentially if he reverts back to hurdles which he should as he was an awful jumper of fences
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Not so much a failed chaser, but has never looked a natural, so my first guess would be Bob Olinger.
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Can't remember who it was that pointed it out last year, but his dams offspring suggest constitution could be an issue at this point. Then again she's never had one of his class. I have him at 40's from last season for the GC but don't see any way he even gets close, so wouldn't be a huge surprise or disappointment if he ended up here. His engine has got him this far over fences, he's just not a natural chaser, at least not at the grade expected of him. Happy to be proved wrong as I love the lad, but it'd need a GC to fall apart and then some, which nobody wants to see.
 
Lobos said:
Buzz just starting very light exercise but not back at yard for a while. Owner expects him to be back between 6 months and a year.
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That basically rules him out of even running in this, no? Depending on what 'back' actually means and when the comment was made.

Wouldn't be going near the price now either way to be fair. After so long off...

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Benjy23 said:
That basically rules him out of even running in this, no? Depending on what 'back' actually means and when the comment was made.

Wouldn't be going near the price now either way to be fair. After so long off...

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Back means back on the course and the comment was in the last few days. Agree though that he's unlikely to be involved in March.
 
Lobos said:
Back means back on the course and the comment was in the last few days. Agree though that he's unlikely to be involved in March.
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Cheers for confirming. He's no chance then has he surely. Even at the shortest end of the scale, he'd just make it and be having his first start for 15 months or so in a G1 at Cheltenham. Some ask that.

Shame as, I know others disagree but, I think he'd have added real interest to this year's renewal.
 
Hopefully Klassical Dream sticks to this division and is given enough time between races and is fresh for this as double figures looks fair to me.
 
In order of who I like at the moment

Maries Rock - 16/1 - banking on her trying 3 miles before Xmas, can’t recall there being too many graded mares races over middle distance, so why not step her up in trip again and see if she can win some of these GB staying 3 milers. 7lbs claim against what looks to be a weak bunch over here

Can’t see her going back down to 2. Can see her trying 3 miles though at some point before Xmas , and if she wins it come lead to a campaign over 3 miles for rest of the season. Mares hurdle looked weak last season. But is this Henderson style… hmm

Might I - 40/1 - outpaced over shorter, and over middle at aintree. Could look back at this and say it was written (second to CH, third behind Jonbon, second to Threestripe). Not many miles on clock. Worth a shoot at the odds
 
Madmoose said:
Hopefully Klassical Dream sticks to this division and is given enough time between races and is fresh for this as double figures looks fair to me.
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Yeah he was my first ante post for this year, clearly not the most straightforward but came there tanking last season and at various stages there were high hopes for this.
Also backed Sire du Berlais, looked better than ever at Aintree and as was pointed out by someone earlier this doesn't looked a wildly deep division and he retains his form throughout the season he could/should go close...
 
I've not had many single bets so far (5 I reckon)
But I like the chances of Thedevilscoachman. As previously mentioned back in the Spring.

Unexposed at the trip and the form and style of his win in the boyne hurdle stacks up
33-1 is about right based on form and the fact that they seem eager to have softish ground.
Definitely the type of horse that if he turned up on the day is likely to be a lot shorter (single figures maybe) but the odds suggest doubts about his participation at this point.

This ground preference must be specific to the individual horses physique but unless the stayers came up too good I think they'd run anyway as they've probably given up the option of chasing now. But ground would be a worry this far out. He was entered or left in at the 6 day stage of all the post Cheltenham graded staying hurdle races last season but the ground was used as an excuse each time he didn't declare.

I think he has the potential and ability to be useful, and should get his ground at some point in Ireland and be competitive over there over the Winter months.
He'll also only be turning 7 next March, which I like (5/6) in last 6 runnings.

Another negative aside from the ground is that he is only one or 2 runs from getting a chase mark and they may go back over fences for all I know.

He might actually be a good any race bet at 20-1+ but I cannot see him priced up anywhere.

Anyhow, I like him for the stayers hurdle and if he does run and win a good staying hurdle in Ireland over the Winter I think they'll enter him up and be keen to run unless it's quick.
 
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Lobos said:
Harry Fry says Might I will NOT be going chasing this season but will instead have one further season over the smaller obstacles and target the Stayers Hurdle. One of the top Novice Hurdlers last season with really good back form, a very consistent sort finishing a well beaten but respectful 2nd to the imperious Constitution Hill when sent off fav , giving weight, at Sandown , Also placed behind Jonbon at Haydock and Three striped Life at Aintree he is looking to exploit an open Staying Division this coming season.
Flooring Porter for me wins again but MI looks a decent EW alternative in a particularly weak/open looking year.
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He's been my pick for this since his Aintree run. Think he's got a great chance. Hoping he turns up at Haydock in the Autumn so I can see him over the 3m there.
 
Quevega said:
I've not had many single bets so far (5 I reckon)
But I like the chances of Thedevilscoachman. As previously mentioned back in the Spring.

Unexposed at the trip and the form and style of his win in the boyne hurdle stacks up
33-1 is about right based on form and the fact that they seem eager to have softish ground.
Definitely the type of horse that if he turned up on the day is likely to be a lot shorter (single figures maybe) but the odds suggest doubts about his participation at this point.

This ground preference must be specific to the individual horses physique but unless the stayers came up too good I think they'd run anyway as they've probably given up the option of chasing now. But ground would be a worry this far out. He was entered or left in at the 6 day stage of all the post Cheltenham graded staying hurdle races last season but the ground was used as an excuse each time he didn't declare.

I think he has the potential and ability to be useful, and should get his ground at some point in Ireland and be competitive over there over the Winter months.
He'll also only be turning 7 next March, which I like (5/6) in last 6 runnings.

Another negative aside from the ground is that he is only one or 2 runs from getting a chase mark and they may go back over fences for all I know.

He might actually be a good any race bet at 20-1+ but I cannot see him priced up anywhere.

Anyhow, I like him for the stayers hurdle and if he does run and win a good staying hurdle in Ireland over the Winter I think they'll enter him up and be keen to run unless it's quick.
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Not a fan of the horse in a strongly run race, but if FP tries to back them all up again this year and Thedevilscoachman is in behind, I think he'd be the one to have the pace to catch FP.
 
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