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2023 Novice Chasers

Ice said:
I'm with you q, can't see appreciate it winning either race. El fab easily brushed him aside today with a few mistakes along the way.
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That is absolutely fucking nonsense.


Supreme winner Appreciate It, written off?!







Embarassing. Love you both obv.... but entertain me :chuncky:
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Willie will want to run Dysart Dynamo in the Arkle won't he, as it will give El Fabiolo a target again (will also help Jonbon too).

If he doesn't run Dysart then where will the pace come from? As it's looking like a field of about 3 or 4 at this rate.

No mention that he won't run him but surely a possibility he might hold him back for one of the other spring festivals.

He wasn't as keen as he was when he was a novice hurdler, but he still wants to get on with things, and surely that will not be possible at Cheltenham if he wanted to be competitive now.
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Easy sell to the owners as well. In a couple of weeks he will say:

'He settled well in his first chase run. We've got him settled again at home. We will try him with some earplugs and that will get him settled before the Arkle... Yada yada yada"

Shorter distance will suit as well.

And as you say, he will help El Fabiolo run to his best.
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Adamantly Chosen's 2nd to Gerri Colombe can be marked up now. He's no 33/1 shot tomorrow. Only entry is Turners as well.....:barbershop_quartet_member:
 
Kevloaf said:
Apprecaite It .... mid divison? Alongside Banbridge,


Get in the bin.

Watch his Supreme back and grow up. They aren't in the same fucking parish.

How dare you:loyal:
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:biggrin-new: mid division in the Turners is about 3rd and 4th to be fair.

If there's not two better than them over the intermediate trip than National Hunt racing might as well get in the bin, never mind me.

Potter by 10 lengths tomorrow!
 
Hardy Eustace said:
Amazing from El Fab today. To win a race of that nature by 10 lengths takes some doing. He should be fav, it won't happen as Jonbon will win an egg and spoon kingmakers but there can be no doubt that El Fab's win today is the single strongest piece of Chase form going.

One thing that hasn't been discussed much at all was Banbridge staying on for second, that is a mighty fine turners trial in my opinion and he must go there with a massive chance.

Over to JDB and Mighty Potter tomorrow - cant have anything else in the race and prefer James at the prices.

What a days racing. Roll on tomorrow.
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Banbridge basically ran his own race ignoring the grade 1 race that was happening and nicked second. Proper bandit behaviour. He won't win the Turners.
 
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Kevloaf said:
That is absolutely fucking nonsense.


Supreme winner Appreciate It, written off?!







Embarassing. Love you both obv.... but entertain me :chuncky:
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His run today reminded of the last time he was in top company- arguably for only the second time.
He flattered to deceive, runs well for a long way and stays on the one pace.
Hes up against it now I reckon as I rate mighty potter
 
Lobos said:
Adamantly Chosen's 2nd to Gerri Colombe can be marked up now. He's no 33/1 shot tomorrow. Only entry is Turners as well.....:barbershop_quartet_member:
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Not on his run against potter, which is probably more like his true form in a properly run race.
 
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Kevloaf said:
That is absolutely fucking nonsense.


Supreme winner Appreciate It, written off?!







Embarassing. Love you both obv.... but entertain me :chuncky:
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I've been wrong before, only once or twice ​​​​ but i personally can't see him winning either the arkle or turners after today.
 
Really think James Du Berlais is going to hack up tomorrow and put Mighty Potter firmly in his place, he just oozed class on his debut, and very much had the best hurdles form out of these on offer. The double green have some ammo to go to war with it seems this season! Deservedly so aswell, they put plenty into the game.
 
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I did put a laughing emoji after once or twice but it seems to have disappeared !
 
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Lobos said:
Adamantly Chosen's 2nd to Gerri Colombe can be marked up now. He's no 33/1 shot tomorrow. Only entry is Turners as well.....:barbershop_quartet_member:
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It bugs me that because he's a novice Willie is unlikely to send him to a handicap, because I think he could do a job in one, myself.

Only way I could have him in the Turners is if it was a 3 runner race and scalp some place profit. But it won't be 3 runners, will it.
 
Lobos said:
Watched the Arkle back again. No way does Appreciate It need a step up in trip. He was dead on his feet at the end of that. Should go Arkle but will be pleased if he doesn't as he's still a player for that. Turners.......nah.
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He was dead on his feet because he'd run out of his comfort zone all the way round

Simply didn't have the pace to keep up

His problem was lack of speed not lacking for stamina

Turners will be perfect for him
 
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Lobos said:
Not after that ride on Lossiemouth.........go with me.
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Because another came back on top of him after making an error means he gave her a bad ride? Can't have that at all personally, just one of those things in racing, it happens.
 
darlojim said:
Really think James Du Berlais is going to hack up tomorrow and put Mighty Potter firmly in his place, he just oozed class on his debut, and very much had the best hurdles form out of these on offer. The double green have some ammo to go to war with it seems this season! Deservedly so aswell, they put plenty into the game.
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They really have. El Fabiolo winning today definitely opens up the Turners door for JDB. Will he be good enough though.....I have my doubts. Another brutal race in prospect tomorrow. A bit like Gerri today, if Mighty Potter wins against the Mullins battalion then he deserves to be odds on fav for the Turners. I haven't backed him but hope he does the business.
 
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Feeling the same as a lot of others, have appreciate it backed for the turners but don't really fancy him that much now. He's just gonna get improved past by the young guns isn't he.

Annoyed I didn't get on Potter at the fancy prices but too late now, will have to take him on with JDB.
 
That really was a monster performance from EF. Lift him out the race and the main protagonists are fighting out the finish, and he's beaten them by 10L. Thats an RPR in the 170's performance and he's achieved that still making mistakes (4th last). I hated seeing Appreciate It beaten but loved what EF did. Brilliant seeing DD showed up too, that was needed.

Today will be fascinating with a view to the Turners. The race now looks a more likely destination for Appreciate It and David Mullins said he'd be shocked if Sir Gerhard ended up anywhere else. I never rated Mighty Potter over hurdles and was heavily critical on debut, but that performance last time out was absolute mustard IMO. Pure class. I think he'll be very hard to beat today and both Willies runners will be racing today with a view to going up the BANC.

Loved what Gerri did yesterday. He's been in the book for a while now and the BANC is looking prime for him. Yesterday was not ideal. The ground could have been softer and the trip could have been longer, but he ground it out. He was clever as his fences, jumped beautifully and I'll be nervously waiting over the next few days to make sure he's come out of his race well.
 
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Kevloaf said:
Pretty good :barbershop_quartet_member:


Am I wrong though? :indecisiveness:
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Well, I do suspect PT will get the choice, and he would be daft to pick a different horse, so in that regard I think you are.
But I was just feeling a bit of sympathy for DJ….. I’m a sentimental old chap at times.
Personally think it would serve PT right if the owners took the approach……. You didn’t want him yesterday, so fuck you at Cheltenham.
But they won’t , trainer will decide.
 
Kevloaf said:
That is absolutely fucking nonsense.


Supreme winner Appreciate It, written off?!







Embarassing. Love you both obv.... but entertain me :chuncky:
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Not really sure how serious you are with all this Supreme stuff with AI?
If he did that performance and then went nov chasing following season, then yes definitely understand it, but that’s not the case here.
He had problems and then ran in a poor (imo)CHurdle.
Did ad well as could be expected in that I think.
Then this season he’s looked ok in his two pretty much school rounds, and then found wanting when facing the best in Ireland.
So imo, he’s not a horse that can be judged on how he is as a horse now, on what he did in the Supreme.
 
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