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2023 Coral Cup

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TO CLOSE BY NOON ON FEBRUARY 21st CHELTENHAM
Wednesday, March 15th THE CORAL CUP HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1) (PREMIER HANDICAP) (GBB RACE) TOTAL RACE VALUE ?100,000 Distributed in accordance with the Stakes and Prize Money Code ?56,270 to the winning horse
The second to receive ?21,200
the third ?10,610
the fourth ?5,300
the fifth ?2,660
the sixth ?1,330
the seventh ?660
the eighth ?340
for four yrs old and upwards TWO MILES ABOUT FIVE FURLONGS (2m 5f)
Enter by noon, February 21st and pay ?125 stake Confrm by noon, March 9th and pay ?375 Declare by 10.00 a.m. March 13th Weights published on February 28th Penalties, after February 26th, 2023, a winner of a hurdle race .................................................. ... 5lb (No penalty to increase a horse’s weight above 12st)
PLEASE NOTE: A novice or juvenile horse shall only be qualifed to run in this race if it has run a minimum of four times in Hurdle races in Great Britain, Ireland or France in accordance with paragraph 15 of the Weights and Handicapping Code

2022, 1st OR 152, 2nd OR 141, 3rd OR 152, 4th OR 140 (High OR 154, Low OR 137)
2021, 1st OR 138, 2nd OR 139, 3rd OR 141, 4th OR 143 (High OR 155, Low OR 130)
2020. 1st OR 140, 2nd OR 144, 3rd OR 139, 4th OR 153 (High OR 154, Low OR 138)
2019. 1st OR 151, 2nd OR 153, 3rd OR 148, 4th OR 146 (High OR 153, Low OR 133)
2018. 1st OR 143, 2nd OR 150, 3rd OR 137, 4th OR 151 (High OR 153, Low OR 135)
2017. 1st OR 148, 2nd OR 148, 3rd OR 146, 4th OR 147 (High OR 156, Low OR 136)
2016. 1st OR 149, 2nd OR 140, 3rd OR 144, 4th OR 141 (High OR 158, Low OR 139)
2015. 1st OR 139, 2nd OR 144, 3rd OR 147, 4th OR 140 (High OR 158, Low OR 138)
2014. 1st OR 153, 2nd OR 148, 3rd OR 138, 4th OR 143 (High OR 154, Low OR 135)
2013. 1st OR 148, 2nd OR 143, 3rd OR 149, 4th OR 142 (High OR 150, Low OR 134)​



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5th Feb 2023
 
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Hardest race of the week....

Who has a shortlist? :indecisiveness:
 
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….individual race thread, it’s getting close.

I notice from Saxon’s Planning Diary, todays Mares Handicap has a decent record in Coral. Heaven Help Us won both recently, Black Tears close a few years earlier. Not sure whether anything can be taken from todays race.
 
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Eggs said:
….individual race thread, it’s getting close.

I notice from Saxon’s Planning Diary, todays Mares Handicap has a decent record in Coral. Heaven Help Us won both recently, Black Tears close a few years earlier. Not sure whether anything can be taken from todays race.
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I’ve taken a bit of Liberty Dance NRNB as she is most likely to be one type out of that race if she goes there. Most likely will go the MNH though you would think unless the owners want to split her and Harmonya Maker up
 
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HMS Seahorse pretty much guaranteed to run here
 
a bit left field but I can see Fastorslow turning up here again & going very close.
 
Kevloaf said:
Well worth backing NRNB Stormez

28/1 I think?
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It’s not a bad shout from doctorwu to be fair. This race isn’t one I’ve looked at yet but he’s a great NRNB play as you say.

Dont think I’ve had the winner of the race since Monkerhostin!
 
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Stormez said:
It’s not a bad shout from doctorwu to be fair. This race isn’t one I’ve looked at yet but he’s a great NRNB play as you say.

Dont think I’ve had the winner of the race since Monkerhostin!
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I am lead to believe the Plate is the plan, but no harm NRNB
 
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Theatre Glory makes plenty of appeal for me, ties in with the Mares angle and Henderson does have a great record in this race. Also think Green Glory is still interesting if he turns up here, if they both did I'd have to have a few quid on the Glory reverse forecast!
 
Camprond, the hood/jokcey and huge drift confirmed Sat was another float up and prob be down to 140 come Tuesday which was what he was last year when lining up. Thought he was a solid play last year prior to the torrential rain and that definitely scuppered any chance he had of winning thou a respectable 4th. Obvs this season this hasn't been a long term target given gone chasing but since that has been shelved and two quick float ups after falling early at xmas he's obvs being saved for a spring pot now and I'll not be able to not have a pop at him again and know a few already have. One for any shortlist IMO.
 
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Outlaw said:
Camprond, the hood/jokcey and huge drift confirmed Sat was another float up and prob be down to 140 come Tuesday which was what he was last year when lining up. Thought he was a solid play last year prior to the torrential rain and that definitely scuppered any chance he had of winning thou a respectable 4th. Obvs this season this hasn't been a long term target given gone chasing but since that has been shelved and two quick float ups after falling early at xmas he's obvs being saved for a spring pot now and I'll not be able to not have a pop at him again and know a few already have. One for any shortlist IMO.
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One for the fiver each way 40/1 WH offer...
 
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Kevloaf said:
One for the fiver each way 40/1 WH offer...
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Yeah forms pretty uninspiring at first glance and could well be 20s come the day but if folk can get odds and sods at that wouldn't put anyone off. Hobbs far from my fav trainer but he's campaigning low end 105/110 type horses well(buried on 2/3 starts) then winning/going close well backed of late so hopefully he's being shrewder across his whole string.
 
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Yeah forms pretty uninspiring at first glance and could well be 20s come the day but if folk can get odds and sods at that wouldn't put anyone off. Hobbs far from my fav trainer but he's campaigning low end 105/110 type horses well(buried on 2/3 starts) then winning/going close well backed of late so hopefully he's being shrewder across his whole string.
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The starting point when looking at the handicaps for me is look at the first few in the market from the previous year and see what price they are now.....

If Camprond was good enough to be a 10/1 shot last year, use that as a base and see what price now and why is he more/less likely to win.

40/1 for a horse than came 4th is solid.


20/1 is fair too..... I'll do a deeper dive closer to the time, 40/1 (even though only a fiver e/w) is an autobet.
 
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