2022 Handicaps

[intheshuck]

Talking to an Irish Trainer today. Sees a change in attitude from the UK handicappers. Thinks they will go to town on the Irish horses next year.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

The resounding consensus seems that we may as well lock the handicap thread until they at least start getting priced up?

All the while it's open we will end up with suggestions, because an open forum will be used for what an open forum is used for, discussion.

 

[Lbur4288]

Haven't really scrolled through the thread so apologies if he's already been discussed but I see Duffle Coat is running on the flat at Thurles today. Taken at face value, even though its the flat, he's back over a suitable trip today and has a 5lb claimer on and to the inexperienced I'd say looks a bit of a bet at 5/1, my issue is I have absolutely no idea what the thinking is behind running there today? I don't think it's a fitness thing as he's run over a shorter trip a couple of times over the Summer, maybe its just a gradual step back up in trip with that gradually increasing before a crack at a Cheltenham handicap?

 

[nortonscoin200]

Jesse Evans maybe one to keep an eye on for the Coral Cup - staying on 4th in the Galway Hurdle and looks to be crying out for a step up to this trip. Rated 140 and trained by Meade. Could be a lively outsider.

 

[Stormez]

Meade in handicaps :cower:

 

[nortonscoin200]

Meade in handicaps :cower:

Exactly, that's why Jeff Kidder went off 80-1 in the Boodles.

 

[Hardy Eustace]

Wide receiver drifting like a barge pole at Punchestown today. Many including myself got a bit carried away with him for last years MP. Is he just a bit of a rag or is Gordon lining up the coral cup (or the MP) for him this year?

 

[jack1092]

Wide receiver drifting like a barge pole at Punchestown today. Many including myself got a bit carried away with him for last years MP. Is he just a bit of a rag or is Gordon lining up the coral cup (or the MP) for him this year?

Owner said he'd be a likely NR due to the ground unless it rained....possibly to do with that.

 

[Hardy Eustace]

Owner said he'd be a likely NR due to the ground unless it rained....possibly to do with that.

Makes sense. Thanks jack.

 

[Odin]

Wide receiver drifting like a barge pole at Punchestown today. Many including myself got a bit carried away with him for last years MP. Is he just a bit of a rag or is Gordon lining up the coral cup (or the MP) for him this year?

In addition to what Jack said, the RP quote indicates that they may go chasing after this so he's almost certainly not there to win I'd say

 

[Muswell]

NR ground apparently

 

[Hardy Eustace]

In addition to what Jack said, the RP quote indicates that they may go chasing after this so he's almost certainly not there to win I'd say

Thanks Odin. I didn’t see that. Will be keeping an eye on him over fences for sure.

 

[Winging The Last]

I know its way too early to be thinking about Cheltenham Handicaps but I thought the entry by Gordon Elliott in the Pertemps qualifier of Tullybeg could be pretty interesting. Same connections as The Bosses Oscar and is currently on a run. He's got an Irish mark currently of 136

 

[Saxon Warrior]

I know its way too early to be thinking about Cheltenham Handicaps but I thought the entry by Gordon Elliott in the Pertemps qualifier of Tullybeg could be pretty interesting. Same connections as The Bosses Oscar and is currently on a run. He's got an Irish mark currently of 136

140 mark from UK capper today.

 

[PresentingPercy]

Hi all, I know we all agree its too early in the day for a dedicated h'cap page per race or a h'cap thread to really be of interest, but would the Pertemps not be one to set-up now, populate with qualifying races and those who have qualified in the first two posts?

Apologies in advance to whoever will be responsible for creating and updating :friendly_wink:

 

[charlie]

I know its way too early to be thinking about Cheltenham Handicaps but I thought the entry by Gordon Elliott in the Pertemps qualifier of Tullybeg could be pretty interesting. Same connections as The Bosses Oscar and is currently on a run. He's got an Irish mark currently of 136

It's never too early to be thinking about handicaps!

 

[Winging The Last]

It's never too early to be thinking about handicaps!

Even though he's favourite for tomorrow surely they won't be trying to win with him. A nice 3rd place being hard held will be just what they want.

One thing I hate about Pertemps races is that, you cant bet on them other than the final as half the trainers want to just place in the qualifiers

 

[Native River]

Even though he's favourite for tomorrow surely they won't be trying to win with him. A nice 3rd place being hard held will be just what they want.

One thing I hate about Pertemps races is that, you cant bet on them other than the final as half the trainers want to just place in the qualifiers

I find that can sometimes help narrow the field as usually you can rule out anyone mid 130s plus as trying hard to win and focus on those who need a win to jump the ratings

 

[Birds Nest]

I find that can sometimes help narrow the field as usually you can rule out anyone mid 130s plus as trying hard to win and focus on those who need a win to jump the ratings

My thoughts exactly, these races can be gold mines.

 

[Outlaw]

Doing some loose form cross overs and the more I look at Craigniche the more I think he could end up down the Ultima route come March, Had his struggles hence the year off but reappeared to win on hcap debut last year impressively at Sandown in poor conditions emerging late. 2nd in the Coral whilst never being in an ideal positions, staying on all the time from the easy lead winner(she won it well mind). By Flemensfirth he's going to be more than capable for 3m you'd imagine. Acts at the course, lightly raced profile and Yard often have a dart in the Ultima enough to make him of interest as the season moves forward if just shy in graded events as I imagine he might be.