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2022 Browns Advisory Novices (3m) Chase - ex RSA

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I was quite impressed by Does He Know in that race at Chepstow. Obviously it wasn't a deep race but he's won going away from Threeunderthrufive who I felt didn't do much wrong and was beaten by a better horse. Possible RSA candidate or one of the long distance handicaps perhaps? I'm not saying he will beat the best of the Irish but I thought he did everything right there and is worth monitoring.

Worth pointing out that all 4 finishers have now qualified to run in the NHC.....Keep it quiet though.......:barbershop_quartet_member:
 
Worth pointing out that all 4 finishers have now qualified to run in the NHC.....Keep it quiet though.......:barbershop_quartet_member:

Also worth noting (from JTF) he was attempting to qualify for the Pertemps but was ran out last season.
 
How short will the bookies cut Bravemansgame to tomorrow if he beats his more experienced opposition in the Intermediate Chase? Will he leapfrog GDC into favouritism?

Its one big vote of confidence by Nicholls to chuck him into a race like this on his chasing debut
 
How short will the bookies cut Bravemansgame to tomorrow if he beats his more experienced opposition in the Intermediate Chase? Will he leapfrog GDC into favouritism?

Its one big vote of confidence by Nicholls to chuck him into a race like this on his chasing debut

Given his average price is already 10/1, I’d say a victory sees him clipped into 8/1. However, ante post never ceases to amaze me these days so he could easily go 6/1 fav.
 
Bravemansgame for me sums up GB racing at the moment. Rubbish
12/1 for the ex-RSA, he should win tomorrow give conditions, sure to be cut, 10/1? 8/1? Rubbish

He will be 6/1 id think if he wins impressively
 
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Think people are being a little harsh on Bravemansgame aren't they ? He does after all carry the Ballymore form into tomorrow's race. We are all dribbling over the thought of Bob Ollinger making his debut over fences and have bet him like he's the new massiah. Surely we'd want BMG to Frank the form big time ?
 
His price now (12/1) should be the price he could be post race if he bolted up tomorrow and looked a natural chaser.
 
Yeah you aren't gonna get much bigger than 10s-12s on a Paul nicholls trained staying novice chaser that finished second in the ballymore

he has the potential to clean up in England and go off way way shorter come March
 
His price now (12/1) should be the price he could be post race if he bolted up tomorrow and looked a natural chaser.

You are correct but that's how it's going to be this season. If Bob Ollinger comes out and wins easy he'll probably go 6/4 for the Marsh. That's why we needed to get on early this season for the top dogs. Sadly the word 'value' looks to be a thing of the past.
 
Yeah you aren't gonna get much bigger than 10s-12s on a Paul nicholls trained staying novice chaser that finished second in the ballymore

he has the potential to clean up in England and go off way way shorter come March

Finished 3rd and even at that he was beat 12Ls, never mind the Ahoy Senor spanking. He gets weight tomorrow, and of course if he wins nice enough he'll be cut, but if it's ahead of Galopin then that's just daft IMo.
 
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Finished 3rd and even at that he was beat 12Ls, never mind the Ahoy Senor spanking. He gets weight tomorrow, and of course if he wins nice enough he'll be cut, but if it's ahead of Galopin then that's just daft IMo.

Couldn’t agree more Sir….
 
You are correct but that's how it's going to be this season. If Bob Ollinger comes out and wins easy he'll probably go 6/4 for the Marsh. That's why we needed to get on early this season for the top dogs. Sadly the word 'value' looks to be a thing of the past.

The difference being that Bob Olinger won the Ballymore with his head in his chest. And in all likelihood will never get headed in the betting. He’s the best horse in the market.

Bravemansgame is sitting in a false position the market for what he has achieved. Gaillard du Mesnil came second, beating him and followed up at Punchestown but is 25/1 (and was 33/1) Champ came second and backed that up winning at Aintree and was 10/1. Easywork came second and was 25/1. Bright forecast came third and was 25/1.

Take away the Denman comment and he’s probably double the price imo. As being a Paul Nicholls trained horse, in relation to the festival hasn’t carried much weight for a few years now really.

But like you say. Sadly it is what it is. We’ve just got to pick out the good from the bad. For me he’s very much the latter as we speak.
 
I know he received a lot of weight but that was impressive for a debut against opposition like that
 
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Given his average price is already 10/1, I’d say a victory sees him clipped into 8/1. However, ante post never ceases to amaze me these days so he could easily go 6/1 fav.

Cut 7/1 with PP, Sky, 8/1 Hills - despite a good round I can’t believe he’s the same as GDC.
 
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I know he received a lot of weight but that was impressive for a debut against opposition like that

Yeah was fairly impressive, 8/1 with 365 for the RSA now, personally I’d take ahoy senor 40/1 or Gaillard du mesnil 25/1
 
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Tempted to top up on GDM as the ballymore form has had a good bit of franking past few days and bodes well for him