2022 Arkle

[Istabraq]

All Arkle discussion here...

 

[Lobos]

Think everyone is over reacting a little re Magic Daze. It was her first run of the season and she wouldn't be anywhere near fully wound up at this point. A few of Henry's better horses have needed their runs and have appeared to blow up at the end of their races, Annie G being another. Robbie Power was searching for the better ground as Henry has already said very soft ground does not suit her. She deserves another chance. Its March that counts.

 

[Kevloaf]

I'm not even sure I'll bother making a book this year :indecisiveness:

Appreciate It isn't done and dusted, but :barbershop_quartet_member:



:glee: Okay, obviously I'll be making a book - but as plenty of us were huge Appreciate It fans last year, what on this earth is coming out of the pack to better him, when he has always looked like a horse made for a fence? Cliche :unconscious: - just so hard not to say though isn't it!

 

[Odin]

Think everyone is over reacting a little re Magic Daze. It was her first run of the season and she wouldn't be anywhere near fully wound up at this point. A few of Henry's better horses have needed their runs and have appeared to blow up at the end of their races, Annie G being another. Robbie Power was searching for the better ground as Henry has already said very soft ground does not suit her. She deserves another chance. Its March that counts.

I agree. She was a 50/1 shot beforehand and essentially ran like one today. I have her ew and it's the 10/1 place that I'm realistically hoping for. 10/1 3 places (or 13/1ish 3 places as it is now could look very very tasty in a six runner arkle field if ferny or appreciate it scary a lot off

 

[Run4Home]

I'm not even sure I'll bother making a book this year :indecisiveness:

Appreciate It isn't done and dusted, but :barbershop_quartet_member:



:glee: Okay, obviously I'll be making a book - but as plenty of us were huge Appreciate It fans last year, what on this earth is coming out of the pack to better him, when he has always looked like a horse made for a fence? Cliche :unconscious: - just so hard not to say though isn't it!

Ferny Hollow over a fence may be the spanner there :confusion:

 

[Kevloaf]

Ferny Hollow over a fence may be the spanner there :confusion:

May be.

Only jumped 9 obstacles under rules and coming off a 12 month lay off, he's not a horse I'd be overly worried about before I saw him back out again to see what ability is still there... but definitely has those two lovely looking bits of form to his name.

 

[Saxon Warrior]

I agree. She was a 50/1 shot beforehand and essentially ran like one today. I have her ew and it's the 10/1 place that I'm realistically hoping for. 10/1 3 places (or 13/1ish 3 places as it is now could look very very tasty in a six runner arkle field if ferny or appreciate it scary a lot off

Not usually many runners in the Arkle
Henry likes a runner, big time
She ran like a quick 2M chaser, for most of the race
10/1 a place could look massive on the day

 

[Lobos]

Are we all certain the Arkle is where FH will be targeted? Its normally a given that Supreme winners end up in the Arkle in which case AI goes that route. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ferney in the Marsh. They learnt to settle him to win the Cheltenham bumper. Those tactics would give him every chance of staying beyond 2 miles.

 

[Cheltenham Novice Chase]

Not usually many runners in the Arkle
Henry likes a runner, big time
She ran like a quick 2M chaser, for most of the race
10/1 a place could look massive on the day

I thought she jumped very well and was tanking through the race. I think she just got tired which, as Lobos mentioned, seems to be the case with De Bromhead’s horses thus far this season. I fully expect her win some races and I think 2m will be perfect for her.

 

[Saxon Warrior]

I thought she jumped very well and was tanking through the race. I think she just got tired which, as Lobos mentioned, seems to be the case with De Bromhead’s horses thus far this season. I fully expect her win some races and I think 2m will be perfect for her.

2 Miles definitely looks her trip.

 

[darlojim]

Are we all certain the Arkle is where FH will be targeted? Its normally a given that Supreme winners end up in the Arkle in which case AI goes that route. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ferney in the Marsh. They learnt to settle him to win the Cheltenham bumper. Those tactics would give him every chance of staying beyond 2 miles.

Depends on how he is a year older now, he managed to quicken away from Bob so 2 mile is definitely no issue and they could always send AI up in trip as they've always said he looks more of a stayer. Will know alot more after their debuts.

 

[Lobos]

Not usually many runners in the Arkle
Henry likes a runner, big time
She ran like a quick 2M chaser, for most of the race
10/1 a place could look massive on the day

Absolutely. What is the average number of Arkle runners over the last 10 years? I doubt it's much over 8 ? As you say, Henry just adores the race and he'll try as hard as he can to have a runner in it .

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Monmiral staying over hurdles according for Paul Nicholls this evening for those who can still cash out. Feel free to check Twitter etc.... before cashing out rather than just take my word but the Fighting Fifth is his early season target.

 

[Topofthegame2021]

I have no idea why but I really don’t trust the article that came out today talking about FERNY going chasing. Seems strangely unlike WPM to give us accurate information so early.

As a side note: I thought he had a pelvis fracture rather than a ‘leg injury’ ? :moon:

I’ll believe it when I see an entry over a fence!!

 

[Priceiskey]

I’m not buying into the Ferny over a fence yet. If he does go chasing I can see him going the Marsh route like Lobos mentioned. AI just wins the Arkle and the mare can pick up some place money.

 

[CueCard]

Think everyone is over reacting a little re Magic Daze. It was her first run of the season and she wouldn't be anywhere near fully wound up at this point. A few of Henry's better horses have needed their runs and have appeared to blow up at the end of their races, Annie G being another. Robbie Power was searching for the better ground as Henry has already said very soft ground does not suit her. She deserves another chance. Its March that counts.

Happy to be proved wrong here but it wasn’t the performance of a future Arkle winner in my opinion, especially given the quality of some of the other market principles. I backed her to win, so it was an easy decision for me. I would have been more hesitant on the button if I’d backed her E/W to be fair.

 

[Istabraq]

Arkle winners have historically been the previous seasons best hurdlers which makes sense, the best horses that learn to jump 18 inches higher will usually be the best chasers.
But, jumping experience is crucial and that’s what early season appearances are all about, this was Magic Daze’s first public appearance and she generally jumped well, if they replicate the PTKO route then you have to take notice.
She will also improve for Rachael’s return as someone pointed out yesterday, it’s too early to rule a horse out for me…

 

[Quevega]

Magic Daze was 50-1 for a reason.
No point giving up on her now really.
But I don't see the attraction personally, athough their is some merit, you could pluck a few more out of a similar nature.
You takes your chances.

 

[jack1092]

Seen this said a few times, are we certain she'll even be riding? She did keep some of the bigger rides in those colours last year, but that was in a year where Robbie Power had decided to stay in the UK then flip flopped and returned home. A more settled season might see him take more of the Robcour rides?

 

[CueCard]

Agreed that 50/1 was a fair reflection on her chances and I'd say 66/1 now is understandable. She will remain on my radar in case connections do indeed follow the PTKO route with her but I'd be playing her E/W if I was to back her in future.