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2017 RSA Chase

Definite runners ?

Might Bite
Alpha Des Obeaux
Royal Vocation
Our Kaempher
O O Seven

???
 
Sounds like you can add American to the list

American is good and we have said all along we are taking it a day at a time.

"He worked well on Saturday morning and we will keep working forward towards the RSA in all probability, but we are not getting ahead of ourselves.

"It needs to be slow enough ground to run, purely just because he is fragile.

"It was a good performance of jumping at Warwick and it was one of the best performances of jumping you will see, what he did down the back straight."
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I still wouldn't back without NRNB on American.... sounds like soft MUST be in the going or he won't take his chance.
 
Hi guys,

New member to the site. Ive been reading through the threads during the day, cracking site you have here!

Anyone got any thoughts or news on Coney Island for this race? I think might bite will take some stopping if at its best but Coney Islands 2nd to Our Duke in December (Disko 3rd) wouldn't be the worst piece of form in the world would it?

Or will he go to the JLT?
 
I'm hoping he goes here IP. It's difficult to tell where he'll go judging by the exchanges
 
Hi IC.

No news, my thoughts are that he'd be competitive in either. I would slightly favour the RSA (3m) though... his defeat against Haymount aover 2m4f would worry me and Mall Dini was very close to him... and he is also better over further. For me, if Coney Island was better at the intermediate trip, he should have been putting Haymount and/or Mall Dini away.

The issue would be, he has been out-battled/stayed over further... His form is solid, without behind special for me... I personally don't think his price is generous, and he isn't my idea of the winner. I backed him at 10/1 NRNB for the JLT but I am hoping I don't get a run for my money in that race now!
 
Just been looking on the Gaults Stats website for the first time, and Might Bite is quite a big negative for this race on the bare stats.

He's a year too old.
No Listed Hurdle win.
No winner since 2002 that had fallen on their last 3 starts.

I'm hoping he can be the stat buster, as I have him in plenty of multi's @ 12/1.
 
Yeah at the price he is now, people will easily be able to pick holes in his profile.

You've got the value though, so easier to ignore them. At 1/4 the price those stats seem more important :highly_amused:
 
I'm quite worried despite the prices I got for him, now that I have read the stats on the ideal profile for the winner of this race, lol!
 
Year too old - not too worrying, still lightly raced?
No listed hurdle win - Not ideal, but won 2 out of his 3 hurdle runs
Faller stat - that would worry me a lot more if it was LTO

There is the "no Feltham winner has ever won in 19 years" too, but Coneygree won the Gold Cup in his RSA year so I don't care about that one particularly.


Who does fit the trends?
 
And this is why I comment on these things, because now you mention it the bare stats look worse than if you actually look into them yourself :) Cheers
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Just been looking on the Gaults Stats website for the first time, and Might Bite is quite a big negative for this race on the bare stats.

He's a year too old.
No Listed Hurdle win.
No winner since 2002 that had fallen on their last 3 starts.

I'm hoping he can be the stat buster, as I have him in plenty of multi's @ 12/1.
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COD,
im taking might bite on for the above reasons. You also have to think that he'll be hot with the usual punters which is another plus for me.
 
i was very taken by Acapella Bourgeois performance yesterday considering that was only his 3rd chase start. ties in very well with Disko, Coney Island, etc. SH stated that the horse needs deep soft ground which is a negative. that said, if the ground turns up on the soft side i'd be all over him. Ive taken Hills (nrnb)@16s ew to go with my Disko ticket.
 
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doctorwu said:
i was very taken by Acapella Bourgeois performance yesterday considering that was only his 3rd chase start. ties in very well with Disko, Coney Island, etc. SH stated that the horse needs deep soft ground which is a negative. that said, if the ground turns up on the soft side i'd be all over him. Ive taken Hills (nrnb)@16s ew to go with my Disko ticket.
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Underrated for sure. This is telling ...but Id be worried he actually had a hard race for all that he made it look easy.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amount by which Acapella Bourgeois ahead of nearest rival at Navan on Sunday, fence by fence <a href="https://t.co/kobiXCsHoU">pic.twitter.com/kobiXCsHoU</a></p>— Simon Rowlands (@RowleyfileRRR) <a href="https://twitter.com/RowleyfileRRR/status/833648228012802048">February 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I was going to post that exact same tweet when I got home mayo.

I think you're absolutely right doc ... how does he fit in with the trends above?
Just checked, all ticks.

Absolutely have to be NRNB - 16s with WH
 
Positive quotes from Hendo regarding:

Might Bite goes into the RSA. It was horrible at Kempton but he had a nice run around Doncaster. He's been very good. Someone said to me the other day 'will you be happy with him on an undulating track as he's only ever been around flat tracks?' Well, there are plenty of horses that have gone to Cheltenham having only run on flat tracks. It's not a worry. His jumping has been good. It would be nice for Might Bite not to have to make it. He must have a powerful engine. It was going to be a staggering performance [in the Kauto Star Novices' Chase].
 
loveracing said:
Massive move - PP just gone 3/1 for Coney Island.
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They were only 4/1 since last week anyway, but is relatively short now, I assume this is now his race and they may have had word on that, it's the only explanation I have if I'm honest.
 
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