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2017 Mares Novice Hurdle

ryanh97 said:
Fayonagh now best price 7/2
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If you cam forget the 6/1 from previously ... if we take it that the target is confirmed ... 7/2 is a very fair price. Mullins hype horses are the only real danger
 
Kevloaf said:
If you cam forget the 6/1 from previously ... if we take it that the target is confirmed ... 7/2 is a very fair price. Mullins hype horses are the only real danger
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If backed at 6/1 and happy. But there's alot more quality French mares to go along side what mullins has. Mullins has 6 that I'm aware of. Jp has 5, inc 2 grade 1 bumper mares. Not sure who owns chambard, but shes been registered and has a simular form line . Plenty to come out.
 
Scooby91 said:
If backed at 6/1 and happy. But there's alot more quality French mares to go along side what mullins has. Mullins has 6 that I'm aware of. Jp has 5, inc 2 grade 1 bumper mares. Not sure who owns chambard, but shes been registered and has a simular form line . Plenty to come out.
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Echo those thoughts. Fayonagh likely to be a worthy market leader whichever race she takes in, her turn of foot is breathtaking at times. However the prices are only fair at this stage (6/1 definitely generous) as we don't know what form these french horses are bringing over. A couple look very smart and have heard positive reports about Salsaretta in particular. They would have to go some to rattle Fayonagh, but I still wonder if Fayonagh may go Supreme. Given Mullins' record in this race and the stack of mares he has this year, the one or two he aims at this race are likely to be top level. Fayonaghs target will obviously depend on her progression over the season and that of the competition, but she beat the boys last year in taking fashion and as the markets develop over the season there's every chance the Supreme could look just as winnable as the Mares Novice. If that's the case then why not go for the bigger prize
 
Robante said:
Echo those thoughts. Fayonagh likely to be a worthy market leader whichever race she takes in, her turn of foot is breathtaking at times. However the prices are only fair at this stage (6/1 definitely generous) as we don't know what form these french horses are bringing over. A couple look very smart and have heard positive reports about Salsaretta in particular. They would have to go some to rattle Fayonagh, but I still wonder if Fayonagh may go Supreme. Given Mullins' record in this race and the stack of mares he has this year, the one or two he aims at this race are likely to be top level. Fayonaghs target will obviously depend on her progression over the season and that of the competition, but she beat the boys last year in taking fashion and as the markets develop over the season there's every chance the Supreme could look just as winnable as the Mares Novice. If that's the case then why not go for the bigger prize
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Agree with most of that but pretty sure fayonagh mares novice especially with her owners being breeders. Couldn't see the supreme at all personally as same trip, if she needed a step up then possibly could go down another route.

And Gordon has a few live ones for the supreme, giggingstown have invested in a few nice French recruits, Dortmund park .... and some nice types of the flat form the arqana sales
 
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Scooby91 said:
Agree with most of that but pretty sure fayonagh mares novice especially with her owners being breeders. Couldn't see the supreme at all personally as same trip, if she needed a step up then possibly could go down another route.

And Gordon has a few live ones for the supreme, giggingstown have invested in a few nice French recruits, Dortmund park .... and some nice types of the flat form the arqana sales
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All valid points and Dortmund Park interests me for the Supreme. Had a little double on Samcro Neptune Fayonagh Mares Novice as a cover, like a lot on here Samcro now seems to be my biggest plunge so far
 
The horses from France are going to have to be pretty special to beat Fayonagh.

Likely odds on when she lines up in March :devilish:

7/2 still not the worst value bet around.
 
Innoko said:
The horses from France are going to have to be pretty special to beat Fayonagh.

Likely odds on when she lines up in March :devilish:

7/2 still not the worst value bet around.
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One of them just won on the bit at Galway. Might just be my new Airlie Beach. :cool:
 
archie said:
One of them just won on the bit at Galway. Might just be my new Airlie Beach. :cool:
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Lovely stuff archie. Ruby gave Shanning a good word in his Facebook Live yesterday.

If she gives you just half the success that Airlie Beach did I imagine you'll be a happy man!
 
Cheers. Given an RPR of 132 - 4 higher than Fayonagh!
 
The OR is a more realistic 126. Plenty of improvement expected but plenty needed.
 
archie said:
The OR is a more realistic 126. Plenty of improvement expected but plenty needed.
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Nearer the time, probably going to take an OR 0f 145 to go close in the race this year.
 
AInsi La Vie takes on Glens Harmony - again - in a maiden on Friday
 
After seeing her get an entry at Cheltenham on Friday, I'm going to put up Dame De Compagnie from the Nicky Henderson yard. Normally this is not a race I follow but I think the mares division is going to go from strength to strength over the coming years as the big owners and trainers really start to focus on it.

Dame De Compagnie finished a close second to Duca De Thaix on her hurdling debut (and only start) and 10 lengths ahead of Dreamcatching in third. Duca De Thaix was entered in the big Irish juvenile race last season and was a bit of a talking horse. He never actually made the track which is a shame because he will now miss out on both his juvenile and novice campaign and have to head straight into open company this season. Dreamcatching has won three from five for Paul Nicholls but was down the field in the Fred Winter off a mark of 131. Regardless of that collateral form (I'm never sure of French racing), Dame De Compagnie travelled superbly through her race after being held up a long way off the pace. She gave the eventual winner a good head start before closing easily in the straight but could not quite overhaul him and was held on the line.

https://youtu.be/m31MSdEsDLw
 
Fayonagh being cut even more with a few bookmakers as well as on the exchanges, without running another race.

She's becoming incredibly short already, with just under 5 months still to go!
 
She'll be 1/2 at this rate come race day, assuming nothing else shows up well before then!
 
Willie has something like 9 in the top 20 in the betting. I'd far rather take 5/2 about him having the winner.
 
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