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2016 Triumph Hurdle

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Any early strong views on this ?

I am/was very sweet on Leoncavallo but I'm undecided after todays narrow win at Wetherby.
Doesn't have the required flat rating to win a Triumph but his trainer has said the horse is a different animal over timber.
He hacked up in a couple of average novices over the Summer then took a major step up in a decent 3yo hurdle at Market Rasen where he carried a double penalty and came 14 lengths clear without coming off the bridle.
That day he demolished his opposition which included a couple of ex flat recruits who were rated in the 80's, the form of that race would put him in with a real shout but he does seem to be ground dependent so how much more we see of the horse between now and March is an unknown.

His win today was by the shortest of margins and doesn't stamp his festival crudentials but it was the first time he's encountered soft ground.

There's a good Triumph Hurdle at Cheltenham on Paddy Power day and with usual decent ground there he could contest that one then disappear for a rest.

Every chance the winner hasn't been out yet of course....
 
I see JFK is in the betting with a couple of firms :highly_amused:

If I had to ave a bet at this stage I'd be siding with Oceane but that would be a very tentative selection indeed.
 
To early to say yet, a few nice 3yo's changed hands at the HIT sale past few days, something may emerge from there or it's still sat in a field in France
 
Rashaan has made two impressive starts in Ireland so far, winning both his races, one at 33/1 on debut the other at 5/4. Bred by the Aga Khan and in training with Colin Kidd, both his victories were quicker than the tracks average times, one to keep an eye on on his next start which is said to be the Grade 3 juvenile on Hatton's Grace Day at FairyHouse
 
paz247 said:
Rashaan has made two impressive starts in Ireland so far, winning both his races, one at 33/1 on debut the other at 5/4. Bred by the Aga Khan and in training with Colin Kidd, both his victories were quicker than the tracks average times, one to keep an eye on on his next start which is said to be the Grade 3 juvenile on Hatton's Grace Day at FairyHouse
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Another good performance by Rashaan today, will wait for the dust to settle, but he powered away from the fav in good style, might have to have a bit of the 20s on offer because I can see him changing hands soon
 
paz247 said:
Another good performance by Rashaan today, will wait for the dust to settle, but he powered away from the fav in good style, might have to have a bit of the 20s on offer because I can see him changing hands soon
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Impressive. Owner said he is not selling but probably a good place to start a negotiation.
 
From AOB fansite

Cradle Mountain and Ivanovich Gorbatov are both entered over hurdles on sunday at Cork in The Galtee 3-Y-O Maiden Hurdle for 3-y-o over 2 miles. Cradle Mountain remains in ownership of Annmarie O'Brien where as Ivanovich Gorbatov has been purchased by J P McManus both Horses remain in training with Aidan.
 
mayo said:
From AOB fansite

Cradle Mountain and Ivanovich Gorbatov are both entered over hurdles on sunday at Cork in The Galtee 3-Y-O Maiden Hurdle for 3-y-o over 2 miles. Cradle Mountain remains in ownership of Annmarie O'Brien where as Ivanovich Gorbatov has been purchased by J P McManus both Horses remain in training with Aidan.
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Ivanovich a 97 flat horse. Wonder if AOB has anything for Supreme ?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alan King on Sceau Royal: "We'll give him a real and come back for the Adonis. It's tried and tested." <a href="https://t.co/flerCghXcZ">pic.twitter.com/flerCghXcZ</a></p>— Racing UK (@Racing_UK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Racing_UK/status/675652302330535936">December 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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IVANOVICH GORBATOV (12.10) looks like a good recruit to hurdles. He won his maiden on the flat at Navan last May over a mile and five furlongs, and he followed up by winning a handicap at Leopardstown off a mark of 97. He is rated 105 on the flat :eek:and I am looking forward to riding him on this, his debut over hurdles.
 
Old Vic said:
IVANOVICH GORBATOV (12.10) looks like a good recruit to hurdles. He won his maiden on the flat at Navan last May over a mile and five furlongs, and he followed up by winning a handicap at Leopardstown off a mark of 97. He is rated 105 on the flat :eek:and I am looking forward to riding him on this, his debut over hurdles.
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Triumph winner
 
Donn


Ivanovich Gorbatov

Ivanovich Gorbatov put up a really good performance to win the juveniles’ maiden hurdle at Leopardstown on Sunday.

There really was an awful lot to like about this performance from Aidan O’Brien’s horse. He travelled well through his race, his jumping was really good for a debutant, he moved up nicely on the outside of Let’s Dance on the run to the final flight, and he picked up impressively on the run in to put two lengths between himself and Willie Mullins’ filly to win, eased down. Let’s Dance is a really highly-regarded filly from the Willie Mullins’ yard. She was sent off the 4/7 favourite for this, and she was backed in to favouritism for the Triumph Hurdle in most lists on Sunday morning. She probably ran her race, the front pair were clear. It is probable that the confidence in her is not misplaced, that she was just beaten by a better horse on the day. Also, the winning time was really good, the fastest of the four hurdle races run over two miles on the day, 3.4secs faster than Long Dog clocked in the Grade 1 hurdle and significantly faster than the maiden and the handicap, which is impressive for a juvenile hurdle in which the two protagonists were making their debut over hurdles.

Ivanovich Gorbatov is a really exciting recruit to hurdles. He won his two races as a three-year-old on the flat for Aidan O’Brien, and earned an official rating of 105 in the process. That is a high rating for a horse who raced just three times, he probably could have gone higher if he had raced on on the flat but, even with a rating of 105, he is a high-class recruit to hurdles. He stays well, and he sets the standard for the Triumph Hurdle.

27th December 2015
 
Timeform dont think much of the favourite ..

JUVENILE HURDLERS
141p CLAN DES OBEAUX
141p WHO DARES WINS
138p APPLE'S JADE
137 JER'S GIRL
137 LEONCAVALLO
136p CAMPEADOR
136 RASHAAN
136 SCEAU ROYAL
135p FIXE LE KAP
134p ADRIEN DU PONT
134p FOOTPAD
134 KASAKH NOIR
131p ST SAVIOUR
131 WOLF OF WINDLESHAM
129P IVANOVICH GORBATOV
129+ SIR CHAUVELIN
129 ROMAIN DE SENAM
128P GIBRALFARO
127p TOMMY SILVER
127 DUKE OF MEDINA
 
Backed sceau royal in the ante post market at 25/1, was happy to see how he won yesterday however what else would you expect for a horse goimg off at 1/6, nonetheless his odds for the triumph were then slashed to 14/1, i felt the form of his previous win was well and truly franked by tne runner up ardien du pont in the finale hurdle at chepstow, a running that I thought put him into the reckoning for the triumph as well, i also got ivanovich gorbatov at 7/1 2 weeks ago in some ante post yankees only to see his price now down as low as 11/4 in places
 
anyone know anything about this one

Zubayr- JCB Triumph Hurdle (20/1)

This year’s Triumph doesn’t look to be a particularly strong one. Aidan O’Brien has the current favourite, Ivanovich Gorbatov, though the horse is only favourite on the basis of a gutsy performance over Christmas at Leopardstown when denying a strongly fancied filly of Willie Mullins for Rich Ricci Let’s Dance. As for the British contingent, Who Dares Wins was very impressive at Doncaster for Alan King when bolting up by twenty lengths in the same Grade 2 that last year’s Triumph winner Peace & Co also won by a wide margin.

However, I still think the winner of the Trumph is yet to have run, and the horse that I am talking about is Zubayr of Paul Nicholls. Some may have already heard the name, as Paul Nicholls has talked about how excited he is to get this juvenile started. It has been reported that Nicholls and Willie Mullins had a bidding war in France for what was described as a”gorgeous individual” and the “standout of those on offer”. The champion trainer paid a whopping €380,000 for the horse, who comes from the same flat operation that gave him the 2011 Triumph winner Zarkandar.

He could be half of his current price on the day of the race, depending on what he does when he makes his debut for Paul Nicholls, and at 20/1, in what looks to be quite a weak Triumph field, he could be a colossal price at the moment.
 
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