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2016 Champion Hurdle

well done to all those who took prices on faugheen ...
 
Doubt we'll see him odds against for this seasons Champion Hurdle again.
 
No chance, might get an even money enhancement but that will be it now.
You could see it in Riccis eyes on Channel 4, especially when he said he was 15kg lighter than the Morgiana!
 
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"Faugheen, Nichols Canyon and Arctic Fire are all likely to run next in the BHP Irish Champion Hurdle."
 
Just wondering if Peace & co could be a forgotten horse in this race now, if they can get him to settle he has a hell of a finishing kick, and the Champion hurdle won't be a dawdle so settling him should be easier. I think Faugheen is going to be very difficult to beat, and I've backed him accordingly, but when looking for a few to stick in ew accas P & C looks to offer some very good value
 
MrMcGoldrick said:
Just wondering if Peace & co could be a forgotten horse in this race now, if they can get him to settle he has a hell of a finishing kick, and the Champion hurdle won't be a dawdle so settling him should be easier. I think Faugheen is going to be very difficult to beat, and I've backed him accordingly, but when looking for a few to stick in ew accas P & C looks to offer some very good value
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I agree MMG. Got to forgive him one run. Would prefer Barry G on him but not likely.
 
I've got a strong view that Triumph horses can't win this race - the emphasis is very much on stamina (run over the stiffer New course) in the Triumph especially as 4yo, a year down the line they're unlikely to get any quicker but they should have even greater stamina, so to win a Triumph you must have significant stamina and in later career you get further.
The drop back to 2m over the quicker and less stamina demanding Old course doesn't suit Triumph horses in my opinion.
It is this that explains the desperate record of 5yo in this race, but I'm not convinced it's an age trend it's the fact that every 4yo goes for the Triumph rather than the Supreme.

Katchit won a desperate champion renewal and Celestial Halo went close in the renewal won by Punjabi, I stand to be corrected but I don't think either Katchit or Punjabi won a race after their champion hurdle success highlighting how poor their renewals were.
I don't recall in my racing memory (30 years) any other Triumph horse going close in a Champion hurdle.

Most other Triumph winners went on to contest the world hurdle rather than champion hurdle.

Just my view but Peace and Co showed extreme grit in winning the Triumph last year in a war of attrition from 2 out, but he's far more likely to win the 2017 World hurdle than this years Champion....
 
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Peace & Co wont get 2 miles until he learns to settle again...
 
Interesting thoughts Isty but I'm just thinking of the ew possibilities, I don't see anything beating Faugheen, if you say double P & C up with Special Tiara £20 ew pays £360, if you find another at 12/1 you're looking at around £1440 if they are all placed, given the first 2 at 14/1 and 12/1 for their races
 
From a place angle I agree Mr M.
I guess it comes down to whether you think this is a strong renewal or not, personally I think it lacks depth so there is some mileage in your place combo bets, beyond the Mullins 3 (Faugheen, Arctic Fire and Nichols Canyon) there's not alot else though NTD still thinks the New One is better than he's shown.
I do love these combo bets and know it's one of the most exciting ways to prepare for the event, I just have a view on Triumph horses and often think they're better being held over (as 5yo) to the Aintree hurdle (2m 4f) where 5yo have gone close in recent years (The New One, Diakali)
 
I am going to wait until the Tuesday morning for the bookies to push out the prices to take the prices with 365 on the Mullins tricast combo. :D
 
Pricewise does this on Tuesday I think.

cant be faugheen ...
 
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Could be a good shout that LR.

I'll go Arctic Fire 10s NRNB
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Wasn't it AF pw last year Ista? I also fancy him to be up there, seems to love the Fest.

WB seems to love the Fest also and at those prices its worth a quid e/w.
 
Yeah I think you're right LR, 25s was it ?
But he is under pressure to pull out big prices so maybe a 10s shot isn't big enough
 
I think he'll go for Peace & Co at 16/1. A decent performance at Haydock and his price will probably half.
 
I just went on 365 to place a bet on WB and he just been cut to 33's and same with Racebets.
 
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