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2015 JLT Novices Chase 2.5 miles

mayo said:
Same problem with Briar Hill in the World Hurdle.
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Definitely, they'll be lucky to have him right in three weeks, I think he landed on the cheek that he smashed at Cheltenham too, not certain about that though
 
Did a bit more digging on last time fallers

So far

In Arkle Only two of the last 28 winners failed to finish first or second last time out

All 4 JLT winners finished 1st or 2nd LTO

I think Moscow Flyer might have been last novice to win a chase after a fall.
 
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Keep going Mayo ,,,Probably worse outside of Novice class. Sire De Grugy ?
 
Moscow Flyer seemed to break all the rules. The only one to defy the age stats in the championship races as well!
 
Mytentoryours said:
Moscow Flyer seemed to break all the rules. The only one to defy the age stats in the championship races as well!
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What a horse ! I saw a program where some show jumpers had been cloned. You think it would pay someone to clone Moscow Kauto etc or at least gather what they need to make it happen.
 
Lester said:
What a horse ! I saw a program where some show jumpers had been cloned. You think it would pay someone to clone Moscow Kauto etc or at least gather what they need to make it happen.
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Yes they should. Loved that period of 2m chasing when Azertyuiop and Well Chief were chasing him home. He also had that habit of unseating Barry Geraghty once every 4 races for a while. He always had a massive following at Cheltenham didn't he.
 
Lester said:
What a horse ! I saw a program where some show jumpers had been cloned. You think it would pay someone to clone Moscow Kauto etc or at least gather what they need to make it happen.
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I wonder if JP has an Istabraq clone tucked away somwhere :)

I suppose cloning would allow them to relace the bits that got cut off and breed from the line again. Would they be allowed to race.
 
The following 28 horses have been scratched:
Arthur's secret (fr), balbir du mathan (fr), carole's destrier , cause of causes (usa), champagne west (ire), cheltenian (fr), close touch , deep trouble (ire), draycott place (ire), fine rightly (ire), florishwells d'ete (fr), gilgamboa (ire), grumeti , jarry d'honneur (fr), landscape (fr), little jon , mala beach (ire), mister spingsprong (ire), noble emperor (ire), perfect gentleman (ire), real steel (ire), rule the world, saphir du rheu (fr), seventh sky (ger), stellar notion (ire), un de sceaux (fr), urano (fr), val de ferbet (fr)
 
WPM

Gitane Du Berlais: I’d say she’s probably more likely to run in the JLT.

Vautour: He came back to win the other day. I just want to get him back to where he was last December. I still feel like I have got a good bit of work to do with him but I still think it will come. I’m heading towards the JLT - if something happened to Un De Sceaux, Vautour would probably take his place in the Arkle but otherwise he’s going to run in the JLT, I imagine.

Valseur Lido: To me, he was an RSA horse, but if Don Poli comes back to run in the RSA, they might want to go for the JLT Chase. I have to look at things from an owner’s point of view. I think he will stay though. I think I ran him in the wrong race at the Festival last year – I should have run him in the Neptune. The further he goes, the better he’ll be.
 
Hoof said:
WPM

Gitane Du Berlais: I’d say she’s probably more likely to run in the JLT.

Vautour: He came back to win the other day. I just want to get him back to where he was last December. I still feel like I have got a good bit of work to do with him but I still think it will come. I’m heading towards the JLT - if something happened to Un De Sceaux, Vautour would probably take his place in the Arkle but otherwise he’s going to run in the JLT, I imagine.

Valseur Lido: To me, he was an RSA horse, but if Don Poli comes back to run in the RSA, they might want to go for the JLT Chase. I have to look at things from an owner’s point of view. I think he will stay though. I think I ran him in the wrong race at the Festival last year – I should have run him in the Neptune. The further he goes, the better he’ll be.
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Looks like your spot on with this one Old Vic. Gigginstown look as though they are going to have their way in running plans.
 
Bryan Cooper at Preview night last night

Michael told Bryan he won't leave him sitting in the weighing room while Patrick has a nice ride in the four miler.

Who wins when it comes to owner and trainer deciding targets? Asked to Bryan. Michael has made it clear to him he says, the owner.
 
Mullins saying he has to look at things from an owners point of view vindicates my point previously that he does not put his sons possibke chelt rides ahead of the interests of the giggy team!
 
iainmcf said:
Mullins saying he has to look at things from an owners point of view vindicates my point previously that he does not put his sons possibke chelt rides ahead of the interests of the giggy team!
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Mullins does unbelievably well to keep his owners happy. So many horses to juggle. Gigginstown do sound a bit more demanding than most though.
 
I think someone has asked this before buy does Gitane Du Berlais receive the mares allowance?
 
Must finish my fallers exercise. That's my main concern with PZ.
 
In the Grade 1 Novice chases I can't find any winner who has fallen during the season since 2005.
 
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