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2000 Guineas

Willypigeon

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Ive had an early look at the race for this year and i just cant be with Too Darn Hot, i mean some horses just sometimes dont train on and good 2 year olds dont always make good 3 year olds. Evens is not worth the bet. I think Jash at 16/1 is a crackin EW bet, considering Ten sovereigns is fav for commonwealth cup and Aiden said last year he is unsure it will stay a mile. Crisford saif he is certain of Jash improvement at a mile.
 
I agree with Jash had a few quid on myself
 
Quite like the look of Zakouski- With Quorto and Persian King going elsewhere, it leaves him + line of duty. From quotes i think LOD is a possible for the French equivalent...
 
2000 Guineas

Better start discussing this.

Had a bet myself on Magna Grecia.

Too Darn Hot had a positive mention today from Gosden, although a decision on his participation won't be until after the weekend.

Magna Grecia has been cut from 12/1 to 5/1 which is pretty mad... although Persian King did the form no harm.


I'd feel I had to take Too Darn Hot on regardless now, given his prep and Godsen's relatively poor Guineas record. He is a trainer who always builds towards the end of the season
 
Just thrown a dart at Set Piece 50/1, 66/1 available if you are a friend of Fred.
Done nothing wrong, open to any amount of improvement and a good show today will see that price collapse
 
Plenty of support for Ten Sovereigns last few hours. Bet365 the last bastion of 5s, trading half a point lower on the machine. Market suggesting that Too Darn Hot won’t be turning up
 
Plenty of support for Ten Sovereigns last few hours. Bet365 the last bastion of 5s, trading half a point lower on the machine. Market suggesting that Too Darn Hot won’t be turning up

Much happier with Magna Grecia than Ten Sovereigns.

Carravaggio and Air Force Blue both spring to mind.

Sprinter. Won't get home. (Or more reasonably, looks to be very speedy, is too short a price to take the chance on him getting the trip well enough)
 
Just thrown a dart at Set Piece 50/1, 66/1 available if you are a friend of Fred.
Done nothing wrong, open to any amount of improvement and a good show today will see that price collapse

Set Piece also acquitted himself well, which was no surprise as he had enjoyed a workout at the track nine days ago. Trainer Hugo Palmer said: "It was a really good run for an inexperienced horse. He fluffed the start then travelled supremely well through the race.
"He probably just needed it a bit and he'll come on an absolute ton. Frankie [Dettori] didn't even think about it and said you've got to come back here in two weeks' time. He said he'll improve at least two lengths."


That 50/1 (66/1) would be too big if he did improve 2L.

Still available at 33/1 - can't decide whether that'll be the same on the day or shorter.
 
Set Piece also acquitted himself well, which was no surprise as he had enjoyed a workout at the track nine days ago. Trainer Hugo Palmer said: "It was a really good run for an inexperienced horse. He fluffed the start then travelled supremely well through the race.
"He probably just needed it a bit and he'll come on an absolute ton. Frankie [Dettori] didn't even think about it and said you've got to come back here in two weeks' time. He said he'll improve at least two lengths."


That 50/1 (66/1) would be too big if he did improve 2L.

Still available at 33/1 - can't decide whether that'll be the same on the day or shorter.

He looked like the most likely winner 1f out. If there is improvement to come he'll have a chance.

If Too Darn Hot and Persian King don't show it looks like a bet winnable race.
 
Odd MG is 14 on the exchange so doesn’t look like he’s coming?
 
Got Ten Sovereigns antepost at 7's, would like to back it up with something else as I'm not 100% convinced I'll stay a mile. Have no firm opinions on anything else - anyone got a suggestion?
 
I had fancied Royal Marine originally but after his run at Newmarket this week I can’t work out if it was really poor racing tactics or he’s just no where near the standard required
 
He looked like the most likely winner 1f out. If there is improvement to come he'll have a chance.

If Too Darn Hot and Persian King don't show it looks like a bet winnable race.

With TDH missing the race Set Piece is now 20/1 top price. I think this race might cut up further.
 
With TDH missing the race Set Piece is now 20/1 top price. I think this race might cut up further.

Yeah.

If Persian King was running I'd have him as very much first choice.

As soon as he's confirmed he'll be slashed no doubt
 
Yeah.

If Persian King was running I'd have him as very much first choice.

As soon as he's confirmed he'll be slashed no doubt

Staying in France for their Guineas unless there's a monsoon at Newmarket according to the trainer.
 
I had fancied Royal Marine originally but after his run at Newmarket this week I can’t work out if it was really poor racing tactics or he’s just no where near the standard required

Wouldn't let the prep run put you off. If they run him in a 2000G there's likely plenty of pace on, so they will have used that run to try and teach him to settle. Hood being appplied too. Did decent work at finish.
 
Kev are you still very confident about Magna Grecia after the news that Ryan Moore is riding Ten Sovereigns?? I’m still undecided, Frankie was full of praise for Advertise earlier in the week??
 
Kev are you still very confident about Magna Grecia after the news that Ryan Moore is riding Ten Sovereigns?? I’m still undecided, Frankie was full of praise for Advertise earlier in the week??

I wouldn't say I've ever been very confident :highly_amused:

Donnacha O'Brien is superb as well, so not bothered - he did well enough on Saxon Warrior last year.



Yes I see Frankie is talking up his own mount... what else would he say though.... Advertise looks short to me, but then again, it isn't like you'd be scared of Magna Grecia is it...
 
Madhmoon 33/1 and Set Piece 25/1 are my two bets in this. Not a race I ever get carried away with and it'll be a quiet few weeks until Royal Ascot.

Also got Madhmoon at 40/1 for the Derby so I could do with a good showing.