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Faugheen_Machine said:
Who is everyones idea of the best value bet in the Cheltenham ante post markets at the moment?

I'd put up Majborough at 14s for Ryanair:
  • Previous festival winner
  • Has the ability (if he sorts his jumping out)
  • New course should suit him better
  • Still only a 6 year old so might not have hit his peak yet.
There are a few negatives, namely his jumping, but i think he's the one horse that may shorten dramatically if they step him up in trip. I also think they'll go for the Gold Cup with Fact To File so that will open the door for Maj to run in the Ryanair.
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As usual , working out , = guessing for me ,
where all the green and gold horses go .
Is going to be risky .
Reading , mullins comments recently and I thought he gave the impression that Fact to File , would go Ryanair.??.
You'd imagine Kaid d'authie , and possibly Inothewayurthinkin would be gold cup bound . ??.
Majborough , and Meetmebythesea possibly for the Ryanair. ??.
Dino blue nailed on for mares chase .
The New Lion , Impose Toi - stayers hdl ??.
Narciso Has - arkle ?, ch hdl. ?.
J.P. will probably buy a Bumper horse nearer the time . ??.
I've forgotten the name of the Potential Triumph horse .. ?
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Back to the subject however ...
I have backed Majborough @ 14's and Meetmebythesea @ 25's for the Ryanair.
But of the two , I think Maj. The most likely Runner., and good value ...
I am sticking to the same race , for my selection - Koktail Divin . @16-1.
Obviously beaten in the b.a.n.c. last festival .
Then won at Aintree .,
being aimed for the Ryanair this time according to h.d.B.- comments . 👍.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Who is everyones idea of the best value bet in the Cheltenham ante post markets at the moment?

I'd put up Majborough at 14s for Ryanair:
  • Previous festival winner
  • Has the ability (if he sorts his jumping out)
  • New course should suit him better
  • Still only a 6 year old so might not have hit his peak yet.
There are a few negatives, namely his jumping, but i think he's the one horse that may shorten dramatically if they step him up in trip. I also think they'll go for the Gold Cup with Fact To File so that will open the door for Maj to run in the Ryanair.
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My answer to your question is AIR OF ENTITLEMENT.
Trained by Henry DeBromhead who's got a good Cheltenham Festival record.
She is 2 wins from 2 visits in the middle of March, this alone often does for me.
Trainer confirmed staying over hurdles, The Mares Hurdle the highly likely target, like her a lot.
Opponents are Selma De Vary who is improving but was beaten there last March.
Wodhooh looks Stayers bound, Brighterdaysahead isn't in love with the track and Golden Ace I think isn't quite good enough, unless they all fall like her CH win.
She'll do for me.
 
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Faugheen_Machine said:
Who is everyones idea of the best value bet in the Cheltenham ante post markets at the moment?

I'd put up Majborough at 14s for Ryanair:
  • Previous festival winner
  • Has the ability (if he sorts his jumping out)
  • New course should suit him better
  • Still only a 6 year old so might not have hit his peak yet.
There are a few negatives, namely his jumping, but i think he's the one horse that may shorten dramatically if they step him up in trip. I also think they'll go for the Gold Cup with Fact To File so that will open the door for Maj to run in the Ryanair.
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Kaid D'Authie (Gold Cup) 25/1
 
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BigChaang said:
As usual , working out , = guessing for me ,
where all the green and gold horses go .
Is going to be risky .
Reading , mullins comments recently and I thought he gave the impression that Fact to File , would go Ryanair.??.
You'd imagine Kaid d'authie , and possibly Inothewayurthinkin would be gold cup bound . ??.
Majborough , and Meetmebythesea possibly for the Ryanair. ??.
Dino blue nailed on for mares chase .
The New Lion , Impose Toi - stayers hdl ??.
Narciso Has - arkle ?, ch hdl. ?.
J.P. will probably buy a Bumper horse nearer the time . ??.
I've forgotten the name of the Potential Triumph horse .. ?
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Back to the subject however ...
I have backed Majborough @ 14's and Meetmebythesea @ 25's for the Ryanair.
But of the two , I think Maj. The most likely Runner., and good value ...
I am sticking to the same race , for my selection - Koktail Divin . @16-1.
Obviously beaten in the b.a.n.c. last festival .
Then won at Aintree .,
being aimed for the Ryanair this time according to h.d.B.- comments . 👍.
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I have added him to my book but I think his jumping may well continue to let him down before Cheltenham. In which case might he not revert to hurdling especially if Willie is light in that direction. So I have backed him for ch Hdle at big odds on the exchanges (130/1).
 
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Faugheen_Machine said:
Who is everyones idea of the best value bet in the Cheltenham ante post markets at the moment?

I'd put up Majborough at 14s for Ryanair:
  • Previous festival winner
  • Has the ability (if he sorts his jumping out)
  • New course should suit him better
  • Still only a 6 year old so might not have hit his peak yet.
There are a few negatives, namely his jumping, but i think he's the one horse that may shorten dramatically if they step him up in trip. I also think they'll go for the Gold Cup with Fact To File so that will open the door for Maj to run in the Ryanair.
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I can’t believe for 1 minute they are going to go gold cup with fact to file for the first time as a 10 year old, if they thought he could win one surely you go as an 8 or 9 year old!
Apart from the Irish gold cup, all the other evidence I’ve seen with my eyes is he doesn’t want another 2 furlongs going up a steep hill.
 
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I think they will send him to the KG and that will make there mind up, no evidence to this other than a feeling he didn't show his true running last year and with Gaelic not going they will give him another try.
 
All depends on what they have at the time. Last year jp had inothewayurthinkin who was reigning champ, and despite his poor form still went there with a chance, and they saw the ryanair as a penalty kick seemingly for fact to file. This year could be completely different. They might have something else that would start fave for a ryanair enabling fact to file to step up. Or they could have nothing else at all for the gold cup which might force them to go that way.

Also dont know why they would send fact to file back to the king george, makes no sense to me but maybe it does to them. Return to the scene of a flop where he was never travelling, or go to leopardstown at xmas where he always runs well and where his best performance came last season.
 
Pigeon Island said:
I can’t believe for 1 minute they are going to go gold cup with fact to file for the first time as a 10 year old, if they thought he could win one surely you go as an 8 or 9 year old!
Apart from the Irish gold cup, all the other evidence I’ve seen with my eyes is he doesn’t want another 2 furlongs going up a steep hill.
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Time will tell.......
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Who is everyones idea of the best value bet in the Cheltenham ante post markets at the moment?

I'd put up Majborough at 14s for Ryanair:
  • Previous festival winner
  • Has the ability (if he sorts his jumping out)
  • New course should suit him better
  • Still only a 6 year old so might not have hit his peak yet.
There are a few negatives, namely his jumping, but i think he's the one horse that may shorten dramatically if they step him up in trip. I also think they'll go for the Gold Cup with Fact To File so that will open the door for Maj to run in the Ryanair.
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I have two for the Ryanair

I've also sweet on Majborough for the Ryanair

I think Mullins have switch tactics, getting horses out as 4 years old and then building them up over time.

Gaelic Warrior - If I recall, he was a keen horse over hurdles. I would have never have thought he could win a Arkle after his novice campaign and heavy defeat and fall at the DRF. He proven me wrong, winning the arkle easily (I do think softer ground helped that day). He struggled in open company over 2 miles, took a break and then started to put things together at Aintree and Sandown. He's since come out and has become a top top class horse, he was so impressive last season - but its early to forget how many questions hung over this horse during the early parts of his career, and questions as to whether he could do left handed

Il est temps - Similar. Keen as a juve, there were questions as to whether he could handle Cheltenham as he always appear to make a mistake at a critical point. Wins the QM, and is short fav for retain his title in March

Kargese - Keen horse. I remember watching her first run as Ascot and thinking she'd probably struggle at Cheltenham - wins the county. Has since turned out to to be a very very good horse.

I'm not giving up on Majborough. He went to the Triumph with only 2 previous runs. Wins. He went to the Arkle with a total of 2 chase starts and 3 hurdle starts. That was all, and if it wasnt for the final 2 fences, he would have won impressively. Alitor had races 12 times before winning the Arkle (9 jumps and 3 bumpers). I also question running him right handed last season, as that surely impacting his confidence.
I think the key to this horse is slower pace. His win last season was at the DRF when the ground was slower, and he was able to gather himself.
If it came up soft to heavy in March (yeah, we need rain rain rain rain) then he'd be my nap of the festival.
I can see why others are put off, but I backed him at 20/1's for the Ryanair as I could see an angle and it doesnt take much for the markets to react after an impressive win, hopefully that happens at some point this season which gives me some options to play with in the Ryannair

The only other horse I feel is value is Koktail Divin at 16/1.
From time to time you get a 2 and a half mile specialistic who is really really good. I'm not talking about these 2 milers that have to step up because their too slow at the top table, or these 3 milers that dont stay the GC trip and have to jump into the Ryanair. And I'm not talking about the middle distance horses that are handicappers.
Koktail Divin could be a top class middle distance horse, one that will be just too damn good at this trip. It's taken a while for me to come around to this fella this year, but I think he could really blow the ryanair field apart this season, especially on good ground.
Plus.... the Ryanair is his target race at the festival - no chance he goes down to 2m (unless Henry thinks he's a Sizing Europe.....), and no chance he goes GC. I'd expected him to be shorter at this point of the season
 
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It'll ultimately be a JP call but, Willie has said the Ryanair looks the obvious place for Fact to File...
 
Pigeon Island said:
I can’t believe for 1 minute they are going to go gold cup with fact to file for the first time as a 10 year old, if they thought he could win one surely you go as an 8 or 9 year old!
Apart from the Irish gold cup, all the other evidence I’ve seen with my eyes is he doesn’t want another 2 furlongs going up a steep hill.
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Completely agree that he should already had a go if he was showing them he could perform the extra distance of the gold cup.
Be surprised if he goes to the festival in any race apart from the Ryanair.
 
If F2F beats Gaelic in JD perhaps they will go Gold Cup this time. JP has a few that can fill in for him for Ryanair as well.
 
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