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2026 Novice Hurdlers

Whenever I look at the turners all I do is count the horses that Talk The Talk has beaten. Does anyone else do the same? 🫠
 
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CJW said:
Whenever I look at the turners all I do is count the horses that Talk The Talk has beaten. Does anyone else do the same? 🫠
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He hasn’t beaten I’ll Sort That or Sortudo ;-)

I think the DRF form will turn out to be average, and the old Lawlors of Naas will shock a few folks

I think the letter will go close in the Turners, with Danny on board and is better jumper out of the two. But then again, I’ll Sort That could also run a big race. Challenge is, will be able to hold the front and will he hurdle a bit better

Feels like a Willoughby Hill vs Neon Wolf year, great race, nice to see a big field and a open market
 
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Folski said:
On the 2 market leaders can anyone tell me the last winner of the Supreme to run in a bumper and not win one?
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Nicholls only had 9 bumper winners last year and only has 1 so far this year, is it possible he's just not pushing the horses hard at a young age?

Anyway back to my main point.

Kopek won at Fairyhouse, Slade Steel at Punchestown, Marine won at Punchestown & Killarney, Appreciate it won 2 bumpers, Shiskin oozed class in his Kempton bumper, Summerville boy also won in Killarney, Altior won at Market Rasen before being beat in 2 better bumpers, CF obvs won the Champion Bumper, Cinders won at Fontwell & Southwell, Al Ferof won at Fairyhouse before moving to Nicholls, Menorah won at Naas before moving to Hobbs, Go Native won at Punchestown, Cee Bee won at Fairyhouse, Noland won at Wincanton, Brave Inca won at Fairyhouse & Navan, BIF won at Naas & Chelt, Like a butterfly won 3, Tourist Attraction won twice at Punchestown, Artic Kinsman won at Ascot, Montelado won the champion, Destriero won at leop, Forest Sun won at Ascot & Sandown.

So there you go back to 1988 and no such example and the front 2 in the market couldn't manage it.

What the consensus on this? Doesn't matter or a red flag.
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It's putting me off thinking that he's a machine - in terms of comparions to the horses Hendo has won the Supreme with

I don't think it affects tomorrow though - it essentially comes down to whether you believe his hurdles rating - as if you do, he's the next one off the shelf in a long impressive line of hendo stars - and if not, the rating he's been given is way off and he'll disappear into folk lore


Is he more Altior or L'ami Serge?



Have to remember, Shishkin drifted wildly on his Supreme day, so I will try and not let the market dictate to me...
 
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opatcho said:
He hasn’t beaten I’ll Sort That or Sortudo ;-)

I think the DRF form will turn out to be average, and the old Lawlors of Naas will shock a few folks

I think the letter will go close in the Turners, with Danny on board and is better jumper out of the two. But then again, I’ll Sort That could also run a big race. Challenge is, will be able to hold the front and will he hurdle a bit better

Feels like a Willoughby Hill vs Neon Wolf year, great race, nice to see a big field and a open market
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OMG you cannot mention Neon Wolf :eek:🥹

🟥💚🐺 What a horse
 
I am bullish on Old Park Star (OPS). I think people are over complicating this IMO and take the view that he should be shorter than he is, so there is still value in his price.

I love the way he jumps and travels, he moves effortlessly and in that regard reminds me of Altior. Solid on debut, superb at Cheltenham and then brilliant at Haddock. He hasn't really been asked a question yet. Progressive RPR’s of 126, 146, 152 and I reckon he'll top 160+ today and piss up.

This Mighty Park might very well be the second coming, but he's drifting like a barge which I am happy about.

Not sure why OPS isn't stronger in the market - perhaps it's because Hendo seems more reserved.

His course form and experience is a massive plus, esp vs all the Irish. I just think he'll win and win well.
 
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Think you guys are right. It is staring us in the face. No need to look elsewhere. OPS wins and wins easily. We'll all be saying afterwards , 'what a huge price'. Time to have a nice bet.
 
Back to my post some recent examples to not win a bumper and run in this are Sizing John, Il etait temps, Edward stone that turned out to be G1 winners. However, IET was the g1 winner coming into the race and ran poorly imo compared to his performance at leop.
 
Mullins pretty bullish on the each way chance of leader d’allier in the itv morning show.
 
Sober Glory just flickered to 3rd fav on the machine!

I do think Mighty Park will be bet late. The models won't like him, but the smart money later on probably will. 8.6 on BFX looks like it might be a bet.
 
I've been back and forth on this race since my initial selection in Jan - which was on TALK TO TALK

He since went out and won at the DRF

I think he's jumping is no worse or inconsistence that Kopek's last season.

I think he's the only horse in the top 4-5 in the betting that has proven himself and has evidence he will battle all the way to the line!

OPS bumper runs still gives me concern, since then he's won over hurdles by battering his competitive by some way out. He'll need to do the same here, Con Hill like. Otherwise, I'd be concerned if there are 3-4 horses around him around the final bend

El Cairos, I think I mentioned this before, I just think he's that sort of horse that will find an excuse not to win. Hung badly in his last bumper. Will he hang again? My head say he has little chance, but my heart says he could be another Labiak - very very unlikely though

Mighty Park - will let that go. Can't back a novice with only 1 run in a maiden

Mydaddypaddy didnt find much last time out, so another one how I couldnt trust up the hill

Talk to talk will put his head down, and I do think this final hurdle being moved down the hill has changed my mind. This will help those who will rather pop a hurdle and then have the longer run in, over those who will attack and hurdle well at top speed as they come to the end of their stamina. If he was trained by Willie, he'd be fav for this and I'm fairly sure he'd be tipped up a lot more by the podcasts etc

TALK TO TALK - Supreme winner
 
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Really hoping that this years 2m novice hurdlers rejuvenate the 2m chasing field. It's sorely lacking and with probably only really Kopek stepping into open company next year, isn't likely to improve much.

Next years 2m novice chasers could include Old Park Star, Sober Glory, Idaho Sun, Narciso Has, Proactif, Leader D'Allier, and maybe even Mighty Park. Looks a lovely crop.
 
Exar Essay said:
Sober Glory just flickered to 3rd fav on the machine!

I do think Mighty Park will be bet late. The models won't like him, but the smart money later on probably will. 8.6 on BFX looks like it might be a bet.
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Models completely swallow the whole market. No one will out bet them.
 
charlie said:
I am bullish on Old Park Star (OPS). I think people are over complicating this IMO and take the view that he should be shorter than he is, so there is still value in his price.

I love the way he jumps and travels, he moves effortlessly and in that regard reminds me of Altior. Solid on debut, superb at Cheltenham and then brilliant at Haddock. He hasn't really been asked a question yet. Progressive RPR’s of 126, 146, 152 and I reckon he'll top 160+ today and piss up.

This Mighty Park might very well be the second coming, but he's drifting like a barge which I am happy about.

Not sure why OPS isn't stronger in the market - perhaps it's because Hendo seems more reserved.

His course form and experience is a massive plus, esp vs all the Irish. I just think he'll win and win well.
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