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2026 Novice Hurdlers

Touched off horse in the tattersalls and moscow flyer winner could be supreme horses. Can't say I'm surprised.
 
As a Moscow Flyer winner, Sober deserves his chance in the Supreme. All but 1 of Willie's winners (7) in the last 12 years went that route.
 
Guinness Village said:
I’ve got a hospitality table of 10 on the Wednesday, and I know that my non race going friends will pick a few more winners than me on the day🤦🏻‍♂️
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Don't you just hate it when that happens, I remember a few years ago one of the lads who'd never been racing before backed a horse called wolf of windelsham, because he's a wolves fan and obviously it won !
 
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Leader dallier 40/1 ante post for the turners with flutter. Not saying I think he goes there, just noticed it's bigger than everywhere else, and people might not have noticed as oddschecker shows the nrnb prices with flutter.

I'm not sure exactly when flutter suspend cash out on ante post bets, for Wednesdays races, next Thursday maybe when the races are cut again? There's probably a few bets like leader where you could have a bit on and see if a race target is more or less confirmed by then, and if not then could just cash out.
 
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darlojim said:
Danny says King Rasko Grey or Sober could be #1 for Willie in the Supreme with KRG the suggested of the 2
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I was close to backing Sober today, thought his flat form would give him valuable experience here... but looked at the previous winners of the Ascot race he won, and they we're all average 135-145 horses over hurdles. I thought it was a light bulb moment - but glad I didnt pull the trigger on the bet

King Rasko - he just doesn't seem to want to win does he in this tougher races. I dont think willie has anything for Turners. Even Might Park. Maybe Sortudo but looks like he may be going AB.
 
5,000 posts about a once raced maiden winner, smdh
 
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Flutter 7/2, 9/2. 365 7/1, 5/1

Supreme/Turners Mighty Park, interesting antepost difference.

5001 posts 😁
 
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Quevega said:
As you've backed for the Turners, isn't this a bit of an oxymoron ?
Are you not doing exactly what you've said others do ?
I've backed for both races :ROFLMAO:

Mighty Park's destination whether you like it or not is likely to have a bearing on which races Leader Dallier and King Rasko Grey go.
Assuming that Steinberg is destined for the bartlett, and Townend rates both those 2 shorter trip novices as the best he has access to.
As others have explained he may well push for those to go in separate races.
And he may want the one he thinks is the better of the two in the race that Mighty Park isn't running in.

Obviously plenty of time to go still, for injuries and he may even surprise us and ride something else in the supreme or turners.
It's exciting isn't it ?
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Only the other day I suggested I was daft enough to back Bambino Fever for the Supreme. I don't see that kind of post on here - honesty appears to equal weakness. It seems I do things very differently to many on here. We discussed this elsewhere, or at least I elaborated on it. I try to pick the winner of a race, while most appear to be just looking to take a position on a race by backing a truck load of horses at the biggest price possible. I like the idea of actually having an opinion. Where's the opinion if you just back a horse in a load of races? So yes, I have just backed King Rasko Grey for the Turners. It was the right decision then, and it remains the right decision. He has a chance of winning that race, but on all known evidence has very little chance in what looks a hot Supreme. King Rasko Grey is the best novice that Townend can ride, it is pretty logical to ride it in the race it can win. All these throwaway quotes from the Mullins camp I would just ignore. It's the same baloney every year. If they are significant then why haven't they filtered through to the markets? I presume because the vast majority either ignore, or don't take them seriously. The idea that the best trainer sends a horse to a Grade 1 half baked is bonkers. He didn't blow up, he had a perfect trip, but lacked a gear to finish it off. Talk The Talk had a much worse trip and still ran him down. There is no obvious reason for him to reverse that form. If anything a faster pace should suit Talk The Talk even more. Then you have Old Park Star and El Cairos to contend with as well. El Cairos has far more speed than he does. Townend - other riders are available - has little chance of winning the Supreme, but does he really want to throw away the chance of winning the Turners as well?
 
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robith said:
5,000 posts about a once raced maiden winner, smdh
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I think we perversely need something to get us going, and this year to fill the post Constitution Hll days before it all starts.

Step forward Mighty Park. Funny it's either Henderson or Mullins. Always . It's just the horses that change.

There should be a therapist on hand now to help us along. Until Tuesday week.
 
kinloch brae said:
Only the other day I suggested I was daft enough to back Bambino Fever for the Supreme. I don't see that kind of post on here - honesty appears to equal weakness. It seems I do things very differently to many on here. We discussed this elsewhere, or at least I elaborated on it. I try to pick the winner of a race, while most appear to be just looking to take a position on a race by backing a truck load of horses at the biggest price possible. I like the idea of actually having an opinion. Where's the opinion if you just back a horse in a load of races? So yes, I have just backed King Rasko Grey for the Turners. It was the right decision then, and it remains the right decision. He has a chance of winning that race, but on all known evidence has very little chance in what looks a hot Supreme. King Rasko Grey is the best novice that Townend can ride, it is pretty logical to ride it in the race it can win. All these throwaway quotes from the Mullins camp I would just ignore. It's the same baloney every year. If they are significant then why haven't they filtered through to the markets? I presume because the vast majority either ignore, or don't take them seriously. The idea that the best trainer sends a horse to a Grade 1 half baked is bonkers. He didn't blow up, he had a perfect trip, but lacked a gear to finish it off. Talk The Talk had a much worse trip and still ran him down. There is no obvious reason for him to reverse that form. If anything a faster pace should suit Talk The Talk even more. Then you have Old Park Star and El Cairos to contend with as well. El Cairos has far more speed than he does. Townend - other riders are available - has little chance of winning the Supreme, but does he really want to throw away the chance of winning the Turners as well?
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Agree with a fair bit you say here KB but I think with the Supreme and Turners you have to always have it in your mind to back said horse you like for both races. A lot of horses that you think could win the turners have probably won over the minimum and shown a nice bit of speed. Unless they look really short of a gear they wouldn’t have a hope in a supreme and it would be between turners and spud race (although caveat that by saying I don’t like horses without a bit of speed going near turners either).

If you look at a lot of WPM’s turners winners most of them are graded winners over the minimum trip, Impaire et passé, sir gerhard, Ballyburn and I think everyone agrees most would have been competitive in a supreme.
 
kinloch brae said:
Only the other day I suggested I was daft enough to back Bambino Fever for the Supreme. I don't see that kind of post on here - honesty appears to equal weakness. It seems I do things very differently to many on here. We discussed this elsewhere, or at least I elaborated on it. I try to pick the winner of a race, while most appear to be just looking to take a position on a race by backing a truck load of horses at the biggest price possible. I like the idea of actually having an opinion. Where's the opinion if you just back a horse in a load of races? So yes, I have just backed King Rasko Grey for the Turners. It was the right decision then, and it remains the right decision. He has a chance of winning that race, but on all known evidence has very little chance in what looks a hot Supreme. King Rasko Grey is the best novice that Townend can ride, it is pretty logical to ride it in the race it can win. All these throwaway quotes from the Mullins camp I would just ignore. It's the same baloney every year. If they are significant then why haven't they filtered through to the markets? I presume because the vast majority either ignore, or don't take them seriously. The idea that the best trainer sends a horse to a Grade 1 half baked is bonkers. He didn't blow up, he had a perfect trip, but lacked a gear to finish it off. Talk The Talk had a much worse trip and still ran him down. There is no obvious reason for him to reverse that form. If anything a faster pace should suit Talk The Talk even more. Then you have Old Park Star and El Cairos to contend with as well. El Cairos has far more speed than he does. Townend - other riders are available - has little chance of winning the Supreme, but does he really want to throw away the chance of winning the Turners as well?
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I think there’s more honesty than you think. Although quite naturally many are biased.
I think those that build books or hedge probably have the luxury of being more balanced in their opinions most of the time but even then the bias will sway opinion and beliefs.

I agree with a lot of what you say regards king rasko myself but acknowledge that those that believe Mullins and the fitness angle might have a point. He may also be better off stronger gallop in a supreme rather than lack a gear at the end of a turners - much like he was out speeded in Dublin

I don’t back many for 2 races without NRNb but some key horses are worthy - at the prices.

It is partly fomo but also a belief that there is not a lot of difference in ability required to be able to win either race.
And it’s impossible to know backing antepost how each race will shape up or be ran on the day.
 
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Danman said:
Don't you just hate it when that happens, I remember a few years ago one of the lads who'd never been racing before backed a horse called wolf of windelsham, because he's a wolves fan and obviously it won !
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I took my Daughter , to Plumpton , and while I hadn't had a placed horse in 4 races, she had 25-1 , 12-1 and 40-1 winners.. 🤯🤯😂👍
 
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Guinness Village said:
I’ve got a hospitality table of 10 on the Wednesday, and I know that my non race going friends will pick a few more winners than me on the day🤦🏻‍♂️
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Isn't it always the way, some bugga will get the 33/1 winner of the Grand Annual on some totally spurious reason after you've spent the best part of 2 days going through every runner in the last 2 weeks only to get a pulled up after 2 fences.
 
Yep , got a mate is a crystal palace fan .
Always backs horses with Palace or Crystal in the name , or the silks are the team colours . 😂😂.
 
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