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April ap festival yankee

Istabraq said:
You're convinced they'll drop him back in trip then MofM ?
His two visits to Cheltenham have been for the potato race and RSA so they clearly think stamina is his forte and he certainly wasn't stopping in his RSA and pulled well clear of the rest, his performance was just made to look ordinary by Percy.

He's a horse I like but the Ryanair is such a hard race to call ante post, if he stays then you have to assume the target will be the Gold Cup or 3m h'cap....
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He’s far too good for a Handicap. He was beaten by penhill in the Albert Bartlett and Presenting Percy in the RSA.

He’d have won the JLT this year as his trainer wanted him dropped in trip to that race apparently but the owner had a big antepost bet for the RSA.

I think he’d be Ryanair next year.



If not him.. Burning Ambition for the Foxhunters anyone? They’ll make him stay better next year and he’ll be a year older.. ;)
 
Istabraq said:
You're convinced they'll drop him back in trip then MofM ?
His two visits to Cheltenham have been for the potato race and RSA so they clearly think stamina is his forte and he certainly wasn't stopping in his RSA and pulled well clear of the rest, his performance was just made to look ordinary by Percy.

He's a horse I like but the Ryanair is such a hard race to call ante post, if he stays then you have to assume the target will be the Gold Cup or 3m h'cap....
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I backed Monalee for the gold cup ,On monday after the festival , Surely going for gold after the R.S.A ., I agree with you Ista
made to look ordinary by an Extraordinary Percy. Also 33-1 with coral was too tempting.
 
Kevloaf said:
My first thought, is that 20/1 is actually fairly generous.

I like it when a horse wins at the first time at 3 miles, as the extra trip is one of the biggest genuine reasons a horse can improve IMO.

Just wondering though, was it just the step up that was the improvement, or was it also the ground?

Just looking back through his form, he's never performed well on good ground. We obviously need to "aim" toward good-to-soft as ante post punters for Cheltenham, so that is a slight concern? For example he was beaten 33L over 20f by Buveuir D'air at Aintree last year on good... whereas this year (different trip AND ground) and he looks a different horse?

All in all, 20/1 fair rather than generous?
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I took 20/1 as soon as the race had finished.
 
I know FM really likes Santini for the rsa, a couple of other decent priced ones being put up too, April yankee looking like being more life changing than the first one:very_drunk:
 
My two pennies on Monalee are he SHOULD run in the Ryanair and would be a huge player.

Whether his price incorporates the fact he's being aimed at the Gold CUp at the moment I am not sure, as we're hoping connections prove he isn't a Gold CUp horse before re-routing.

A little bit skinny with that being the case, for all that I think he'd have an outstanding chance.
 
Kevloaf said:
My two pennies on Monalee are he SHOULD run in the Ryanair and would be a huge player.

Whether his price incorporates the fact he's being aimed at the Gold CUp at the moment I am not sure, as we're hoping connections prove he isn't a Gold CUp horse before re-routing.

A little bit skinny with that being the case, for all that I think he'd have an outstanding chance.
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I see monalee a little bit like coney island this year , not totally sure which race he'll go for , being giggs , would have thought
they'd want the g.cup , but maybe better suited to the r/air.we shall see in due course.
 
BigChaang said:
I see monalee a little bit like coney island this year , not totally sure which race he'll go for
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And this is exactly my issue when considering AP yankees.
He could end up in the Gold Cup, 3m h'cap or Ryanair so enough questions for me not to back him.

If this was early March and his target was confirmed I'd be very very interested in the horse, but for me compiling a yankee at this stage you have to look at horses who have certain targets.
Just my take...
 
Couple of weeks to go until we decide, shall we use this as a base and swap horses in/out?

Santini - RSA (12/1)
Samcro - JLT (4/1)
Identity Thief - Stayers (14/1)
Carefully Selected - Albert Bartlett (20/1)

That is 20474/1 on 365 at the moment....

Unfortunately other bookies are better prices about individual horses.

Possibles....
Black Op - JLT
Annamix - Supreme
Monalee - Ryanair
 
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Istabraq said:
And this is exactly my issue when considering AP yankees.
He could end up in the Gold Cup, 3m h'cap or Ryanair so enough questions for me not to back him.

If this was early March and his target was confirmed I'd be very very interested in the horse, but for me compiling a yankee at this stage you have to look at horses who have certain targets.
Just my take...
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That’s a fair point.

I’m of the view that some horses are that price because the uncertainty about their race. So with me fancying Monalee as a Ryanair horse and the price being decent, I would include him in one of these Yankees.

But I’d only include him once whilst his target is uncertain. Same with Samcro for the JLT for that matter. Take advantage of the price but then wait until we know where he’s going.

Santini RSA abs Identity Thief Stayers are two good choices imo. Samcro JLT and Monalee Ryanair would be my additions personally.

Couldn’t have carefully selected at all. But if he’s in, I’ll include him. I would fancy Might Bite over PP but included the latter in the march yankee just in case we all win, I’d be annoyed if I didn’t do it.
 
Summerville boy in the champ hurdle is one I like the look of, and the trainer has already stated that will be his target
 
Actually I wouldn’t be against that either.

Good shout MrMcGoldrick (aka Didzy)
 
MrMcGoldrick said:
Summerville boy in the champ hurdle is one I like the look of, and the trainer has already stated that will be his target
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Got a link to the quote anywhere?

Istabraq said:
At 14/16s I agree, appears to be the target and a proven liking for the track, a good quality decent ground win would increase confidence....
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Doesn't jump like a champion hurdler and relies on soft ground in my opinion at this stage....

HOWEVER....

The ground theory hasn't been tested yet...
The jumping will improve next season, and he won in spite of it...

So I have no real issue either...

Apart from the fact Buveur D'air wins it again :p
 
Personally i see Topofthegame as better value at 25's and the more likely winner of the RSA at this stage. He is built for jumping fences and is a similar build to Might Bite actually possibly even a hand bigger, Santini doesn't look an overly scopey individual to my eye...
 
BigChaang said:
I see monalee a little bit like coney island this year , not totally sure which race he'll go for , being giggs , would have thought
they'd want the g.cup , but maybe better suited to the r/air.we shall see in due course.
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Monalee isn’t owned by O’Leary BC, similar silks alright but he’s owned by Barry Maloney.
 
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MrMcGoldrick said:
https://www.racingpost.com/news/sup...-for-possible-champion-hurdle-campaign/324076

This should be it Kev
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Thanks. Not against him as a selection either then. A known target is ante post 1.01 at this stage...

SeanRock said:
Personally i see Topofthegame as better value at 25's and the more likely winner of the RSA at this stage. He is built for jumping fences and is a similar build to Might Bite actually possibly even a hand bigger, Santini doesn't look an overly scopey individual to my eye...
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Wouldn't need a heap of improvement as a chaser on his handicap 2nd at the festival so certainly an interesting contender Sean. I know he got a very good mention in the One Jump Ahead book with a view to chasing, no reason that won't be the case again.

Interesting re: Santini - Literally every comment I've heard is that he looks to be a chaser. Often pays to be against the grain but I'm struggling to agree that Santini won't be a grade 1 chaser if he's a grade 1 hurdler
 
My take on Topofthegame was whatever he did over hurdles was a bonus with a view to him going chasing. Take a look at his chase debut he is so big and scopey it’s ridiculous, Noel Fehily gave him a special mention in his horses to follow for this season saying “He should be a much better chaser and I’d a horse, to look at, that is hard to believe he has achieved what he did over hurdles. He is massive and should improve as he strengthens up”.

Which is all the more impressive given his form came on a ton from his novice Hurdle campaign.
 
So, it’s looking like something along the lines of:
Santini (RSA)
Samcro (JLT)
Summerville Boy (CH)
Identity Thief (Stayers)

I’d like to suggest getting the bet done before Punchestown, because Punchestown would offer up more options for May.
 
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