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Stayers Hurdle 2018

Top price of 16/1 now in 1 place.

12s NRNB, or 14s with WH's concession.

He part of your Stayers Hurdle plans?

I backed him on the exchanges at 50+ I think (need to check). Wide open renewal and can pick holes in all of them. I'd only be hopeful, rather than confident.

The World's End 20/1 & 40/1
TNO 50.0+
Bacardys 10/1 any race
*Supasundae 25/1

Are my arrows at the moment.
 
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I'm not quite sure what to make of The New One for this race...

We've seen with Nichols Canyon last year and also Solwhit in 2013, Inglis Drever in 2005 that horses unproven at the trip and generally 2 mile+ hurdlers and trying 3 miles for the first time can win this race. All were younger though and were proven grade 1 horses, a level which it's proven TNO is just below. It was fantastic to see TNO win yesterday in the manner he did and shows how good the sport is but
you're relying on the step up to 3m trip bridging the gap between that level below top class and top class. The stayers hurdle will always get a bad reputation...failed chasers, poor grade 1 etc but i'd argue take out Cole Harden in 2015 and the last 10 winners have been top grade 1 hurdlers. We could get another 'Cole Harden' year but that is not the norm and TNO falls short from this level even at another trip and at 10 years old.

Although the ground at Haydock has never suited the horse soft ground is fast becoming what he wants so Spring ground will not help and has been another factor imo why he has been found out over the last few Spring festivals.

NTD probably has got the horse in as good a form as of any point in the last 3-4 years. I do have a soft spot for TNO and if I had to pick a horse to win that I hadn't backed it would be him but it's very very hard to see him win and I can see a place at best so 14's best price is too short for me. That said if he is in with a chance well done for anyone who got big prices like the 50/1...:encouragement:

However IF he was to be bang there jumping the last then he has every chance. His problem round Cheltenham and at grade 1 level has generally been the fact he's got outpaced at the crucial part of the race, only to stay on well up the hill so if he can keep tabs on the leaders over the longer trip, where speed isn't as much of a factor then you know he will be finishing well. If you were to compare say L'ami Serge at the same price...I know who i'd favour to come out on top after the last side by side.

La Bague Au Roi I was really impressed with yesterday. I'm surprised Greatrex wasn't more bullish about targeting this race after her Ascot performance considering the talk before the race was if she won well that would be the aim. She could not have done any better! I think she needs 3 miles to be seen at her best so despite on paper the Mares race looking an easier option (bar AJ) I'd say her best chance at the festival would be here. Like TNO I think it's maybe hard to see her winning the race but I can certainly see plenty in her favour for place terms. I think she could potentially hold her own outside of her own sex at this trip and Mares have had a decent record in the race : 9 of the last 18 mares have finished in the top 4 (1 winner, 3 seconds, 2 thirds and 3 fourths). 25/1 (EW) NRNB added straight after the race yesterday

We don't have to wait long to see how Bacardys gets back on over hurdles in the Galmoy Hurdle on Thursday. He's entered along with a few other interesting entries...

Let's Dance - Could be looking to avoid Apple's Jade and go for the Stayers?
Presenting Percy - ?!? No idea on this entry?
Delta Work - I know Scooby fancies him for the Martin Pipe
 
Good write up Jono :encouragement: TNO would be the most popular winner of the week if he did win.

What is the maximum field in this? 20? From the entries I could see 18-20 lining up.
 
Every time i look at this race I'm drawn towards Supasundae...anyone else feel that on better ground he is in the top 2 for this??
 
Every time i look at this race I'm drawn towards Supasundae...anyone else feel that on better ground he is in the top 2 for this??

I did and still think he's got a good chance but not quite as bullish. Hes running in the Irish champion hurdle which I don't like as a prep, and this race looks a whole lot deeper than once was.
 
Shaping up to be the most open race of the festival this for me (barring handicaps). Can make a decent case for the following 11 to varying degrees, and i'd expect at least 9 of the 11 to line up:

Sam Spinner
The Worlds End
Supasundae
L'ami Serge
Penhill
Yanworth
Wholestone
Bacardys
Le Bague Au Roi
Finian's Oscar
The New One
 
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Any thoughts on the Cleeve?
 
Bit of an odd one this but I think Ex Patriot might outrun his price (33s) in the Cleeve
 
Doctor. Had a whisper ew for that last week

Got told to back it ew for the triumph last year @50s. Several of my mates did nicely with 4 places. Thankfully I backed the winner.
Its has an unusual profile in so much as you would have expected them to go down the AB instead of losing its novice status.
 
Shaping up to be the most open race of the festival this for me (barring handicaps). Can make a decent case for the following 11 to varying degrees, and i'd expect at least 9 of the 11 to line up:

Sam Spinner
The Worlds End
Supasundae
L'ami Serge
Penhill
Yanworth
Wholestone
Bacardys
Le Bague Au Roi
Finian's Oscar
The New One

Agree with that.
Not often championship races are competitive to the point where there are multiple serious contenders but if that lot go to post it'll be a hell of a race...
 
Agree with that.
Not often championship races are competitive to the point where there are multiple serious contenders but if that lot go to post it'll be a hell of a race...

Such mixed form as well amongst that lot that it’s impossible to have a confident fancy. Sam Spinner is the right favourite as he seems so progressive and has had a smooth enough build up this year, the worlds end would be my biggest winner and I’m confident will be a lot closer on good spring ground. But the likes of Penhill and Bacardys could bring anything to the race, and Supasundae is solid
 
I can't have Sam Spinner, trainer is my problem with his chances.
Gun to my head I'd be backing Wholestone....
 
Shaping up to be the most open race of the festival this for me (barring handicaps). Can make a decent case for the following 11 to varying degrees, and i'd expect at least 9 of the 11 to line up:

Sam Spinner
The Worlds End
Supasundae
L'ami Serge
Penhill
Yanworth
Wholestone
Bacardys
Le Bague Au Roi
Finian's Oscar
The New One

Uknowhatimeanharry probably deserves a mention too. And Lil Rockerfellar.



For me, Finians Oscar and L’Ami Serge look the best bets NRNB at 9/1 and 10/1 out of the current market.

Wide open race probably best left til the day now.
 
Bacardys ew (1/4 1-3) 14/1 NRNB BOG
 
Shaping up to be the most open race of the festival this for me (barring handicaps). Can make a decent case for the following 11 to varying degrees, and i'd expect at least 9 of the 11 to line up:

Sam Spinner
The Worlds End
Supasundae
L'ami Serge
Penhill
Yanworth
Wholestone
Bacardys
Le Bague Au Roi
Finian's Oscar
The New One

I think you can make a case for Lil Rockerfeller (as Ista says), and UNWIMH and Beer Goggles too....

I can't rule out any of those at the moment which is why I am in the position I am in :highly_amused:
 
I think you can make a case for Lil Rockerfeller (as Ista says), and UNWIMH and Beer Goggles too....

I can't rule out any of those at the moment which is why I am in the position I am in :highly_amused:

Already have UNWIMH and Lil rockerfeller backed from earlier in the season ;) Can’t be having beer goggles but wouldn’t begrudge them a victory with him after todays news
 
Galmoy Hurdle - Bacardys, Admiral Brian, Alpha Des Obeaux, Augusta Kate, Diamond Cauchois, Lieutenant Colonel, Presenting Percy, Let's Dance.

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Galmoy Hurdle - Bacardys, Admiral Brian, Alpha Des Obeaux, Augusta Kate, Diamond Cauchois, Lieutenant Colonel, Presenting Percy, Let's Dance.

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A lot of different angles covered with that line up.

Will see the let's dance theory tested...
Percy over hurdles is an odd move
Diamond Cauchois already fav for a handicap
Alpha des Obeaux i hadn't considered but that's interesting too
Obviously Bacardys of interest.

All expected to run?
 
A lot of different angles covered with that line up.

Will see the let's dance theory tested...
Percy over hurdles is an odd move
Diamond Cauchois already fav for a handicap
Alpha des Obeaux i hadn't considered but that's interesting too
Obviously Bacardys of interest.

All expected to run?

All set to run. Will be interesting to see prices. Let's dance could be possibly overpriced ew
Assuming bacardys will be pretty short around 11/8 fav.