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Lay of the festival

Liammet

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Enjoying reading all of your fancies
However,which of the favourites would you prefer to lay ?
Might Bite for me
Think he will puke his ring up half way up the hill and head for the Guinness tent
Just my opinion,what's yours ?
 
See I thought that last year and despite his little detour he still rallied and got it done.

I'm not sure he'll win (think he's vulnerable to a proper full blown stayer) but I think his cruising speed and that they seem to know how to ride him a bit better now means I wouldn't be mad keen to be laying him
 
I think the frightening thing about Might Bite is how much he had left having virtually stopped. Never seen the like of it in a Championship race at the Festival.

At the prices, it would have to be Samcro for me. He may well be truly special, and I hope he is for all those on at fancy prices, but from a price / value perspective, 2/1 on what he's achieved, in what might be one of the hottest Novice races of the week. I'd gladly lay all day long. Especially when you factor in he's had a couple of niggles.
 
Apple’s Shakira for me. Think she is shorter than she should be because of who her sister is.

The last race she beat nothing and took her time getting there and the race before was impressive but her main rival went off too hard in front and fell in a hole at the end similar to Adrian De Pont against Coney Island.
 
I think the frightening thing about Might Bite is how much he had left having virtually stopped. Never seen the like of it in a Championship race at the Festival.

At the prices, it would have to be Samcro for me. He may well be truly special, and I hope he is for all those on at fancy prices, but from a price / value perspective, 2/1 on what he's achieved, in what might be one of the hottest Novice races of the week. I'd gladly lay all day long. Especially when you factor in he's had a couple of niggles.

He's beaten the same horses that next destination has and by further so the form isn't bad

I would like to see him winning a grade 1 though before lumping any cash on for the festival

Seen it too many times before as well, the big Irish hope coming over and blowing up. Death duty last year was a fine example
 
Samcro for me too - you’d need certifying to be backing it now at 2s and under.
 
Footpad will not win the arkle

... pop in to the arkle thread and get some discussion going about why would mate .... good to have different opinions and I can't recall anyone being anything but effusive in the last month at least
 
Although not favourite, Faugheen at this stage wild bvd my last of the festival. At the odds I'd rather lay him than Samcro
 
Un de sceaux ryanair
Apple's shakira triumph
Our duke gold cup
Melon CH
Politologue qmcc
Presenting percy rsa

All massively too short. Only AS would have a chance of WINNING in my eyes but not one that her odds reflect.
If I could do a lay acca I would.
 
Sam Spinner. Got to love him, he's gutsy and improving BUT..........all of his form is on soft or heavy ground and he's never ran at Cheltz before. I love horses with course form and especially proven Fest form and for this he's my lay.
 
At the prices:
Apple's Shakira
Sam Spinner
Altior

I also think that Buveur D'Air is mentally short 2 months in advance without NRNB. Almost certain to be a special offer on the day.
 
They say Shakira has potential to be better than jade so I wouldn’t be laying her.
 
They say Shakira has potential to be better than jade so I wouldn’t be laying her.

Every horse has the potential to be anything so I'm not sure what difference that makes Just because it's her sister. She has beat very little to be that price both here and in France.

I genuinely think people are backing her at current price as if it is Apple's jade
 
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Fair points Scooby, but Gumball has a rating of 143 and beat a 134 horse at Chepstow without coming off the bridle and as we all saw Apples Shakira put plenty of daylight between her and Gumball at Cheltenham, and looked to do it almost as effortlessly as Defi did with his challengers last year.
Where does that place AS now ? 157/158 ? Which would be a lofty enough rating to win the Triumph...
 
Gumball took the boggiest route on the home straight whilst AS hogged the rail. I think the distance between them was exaggerated - though you'd be surprised if the form was reversed come March.
 
Fair points Scooby, but Gumball has a rating of 143 and beat a 134 horse at Chepstow without coming off the bridle and as we all saw Apples Shakira put plenty of daylight between her and Gumball at Cheltenham, and looked to do it almost as effortlessly as Defi did with his challengers last year.
Where does that place AS now ? 157/158 ? Which would be a lofty enough rating to win the Triumph...

Gumballs rating id have to think is a pretty harsh one personally.
 
Fair points Scooby, but Gumball has a rating of 143 and beat a 134 horse at Chepstow without coming off the bridle and as we all saw Apples Shakira put plenty of daylight between her and Gumball at Cheltenham, and looked to do it almost as effortlessly as Defi did with his challengers last year.
Where does that place AS now ? 157/158 ? Which would be a lofty enough rating to win the Triumph...

Jusy seen the 158 comment, jesus, on what shes done 148 absolute max takimg no chances and that could be very harsh on connections. Shes ran in a couple of small field races and beat gumball, nube negra. Gumball is no 144 horse right now. But the handicappers took no
Chances.
 
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Apple's Shakira Fred Winter plot dead in the water then :rolleyes:
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