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Ballymore (Previously Neptune) Novice Hurdle 2018

Innoko said:
Runner-up Cracking Smart, who had finished five and a half lengths behind Next Destination at Navan last month, stayed on well to get within a length of the Mullins-trained six-year-old.

"I'm delighted with that run and I'd imagine he'll go straight to Cheltenham for the Albert Bartlett. That looks the race for him," said trainer Gordon Elliott of Cracking Smart.

Looks like he will be going after all.... He was definitely 25-1. :highly_amused:
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Good stuff. Think he will relish the spring ground too. Just can't have him out of the frame in this race, and if ND doesn't go here, think he will be one of my main bets of the week (AB that is)
 
CS is top priced with William Hill. A good horse to back with their concession.
 
Innoko said:
Runner-up Cracking Smart, who had finished five and a half lengths behind Next Destination at Navan last month, stayed on well to get within a length of the Mullins-trained six-year-old.

"I'm delighted with that run and I'd imagine he'll go straight to Cheltenham for the Albert Bartlett. That looks the race for him," said trainer Gordon Elliott of Cracking Smart.

Looks like he will be going after all.... He was definitely 25-1. :highly_amused:
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Shame you didn't think he would go :highly_amused:
 
Innoko said:
Haha!

I should never think! That's my problem :highly_amused:
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Same as that, lol.

Those any race markets have saved me a lot of pain and aggravation this year.

Can't lose anywhere near as much if it goes tits up, either :highly_amused:
 
Can somebody confirm that this theory I have concocted for Samcro sidestepping the race with ND yesterday is nonsense? My theory is they didn't want Samcro to run and beat ND as that would mean ND would most likely run in the AB which Gordon Elliot would rather keep open for Cracking Smart, and thus leaving him the genuine possibiliy of training the winner of both races. Absolute nonsense right?
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Can somebody confirm that this theory I have concocted for Samcro sidestepping the race with ND yesterday is nonsense? My theory is they didn't want Samcro to run and beat ND as that would mean ND would most likely run in the AB which Gordon Elliot would rather keep open for Cracking Smart, and thus leaving him the genuine possibiliy of training the winner of both races. Absolute nonsense right?
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Its elaborate at the very least!!!
 
Rhinestone_Cowboy said:
Can somebody confirm that this theory I have concocted for Samcro sidestepping the race with ND yesterday is nonsense? My theory is they didn't want Samcro to run and beat ND as that would mean ND would most likely run in the AB which Gordon Elliot would rather keep open for Cracking Smart, and thus leaving him the genuine possibiliy of training the winner of both races. Absolute nonsense right?
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Can't Catch Me said:
Its elaborate at the very least!!!
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I love that theory. I want to believe it.... but....

My honest opinion would be that Gordon Elliott wouldn't sacrifice a Grade 1 race during the season in the hope of picking a more important one up at the festival.
 
Kevloaf said:
I love that theory. I want to believe it.... but....

My honest opinion would be that Gordon Elliott wouldn't sacrifice a Grade 1 race during the season in the hope of picking a more important one up at the festival.
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haha...told you it was nonsense, sort of thing you come up with when you still haven't backed Next Destination for this race. Although happy with the 0.5 E/W double I put on ND this race and CS for the AB after the last time the pair met, think it was around 220/1 with Laddies, would settle for that coming in if Samcro gets chinned
 
Istabraq said:
Is On The Blind Side dismissed from the thinking here should this be his engagement ?
Personally I want him in the potato race but if Hendo thinks has the gears to win this he has to be taken seriously....
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OTBS has arguably the best form on offer, with the Cheltenham win looking really strong now & suspect he improved on that at Sandown. If you’ve backed Samcro at a fancy price- good luck - but how anyone could get stuck in at less than 2/1 more than 2 months away when it’s won at 1/5 & 1/4 in poor races is beyond me. Next Destination has stronger Irish form & I suspect the English form is stronger - both Momello & Poetic Rhythm highly regarded by their connections and fine the business since. We’ll find out on March
 
Does anyone know when Moscow Flyer entries are out? I've heard whispers Samcro might go for it... I know he must be 90% certain to go for the Ballymore but there's something nagging me that he might still end up in the Supreme, want to make sure I have it covered if so
 
Robbante said:
Does anyone know when Moscow Flyer entries are out? I've heard whispers Samcro might go for it... I know he must be 90% certain to go for the Ballymore but there's something nagging me that he might still end up in the Supreme, want to make sure I have it covered if so
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He may well go for it. Or 2 mile in feb. But only because there's no 2m4 options in Ireland. Could well be the same reasoning behind getabird carter mckay etc.... I would be suprised if any of them went 2m at the festival.
 
Moscow Flyer entries close at noon today.
 
I saw a quote either from Elliott or O'Leary saying Samcro will be aimed at the 2m 6f race at the dublin festival.
 
No Samcro in the Moscow Flyer. Mengli Khan and Getabird entered up though, not sure if Mengli runs but i'll be hoping he puts Getabird in his place if he does
 
Samcro to be entered in the Irish Champion Hurdle. Now that would be something!
 
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Draconien running at Clonmel today against a couple of horses who might well be trying to get favourable marks! Have had a decent bet on him and hopefully he can start getting some Cheltenham mentions after this.
 
Very poor from Draconien. Don't think we saw a Cheltenham winner in that race.

Although the winner paid a nice compliment to Getabird.
 
Winner paid a bigger compliment to Cracking Smart who beat him 40 lengths earlier in the season over similar trip and ground
 
Robbante said:
Winner paid a bigger compliment to Cracking Smart who beat him 40 lengths earlier in the season over similar trip and ground
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Cracking smart seemed to stay on strongly last day in heavy ground
Not saying he is totally dependent on it but seemed to handle it better than most
Looks a typical gigginstown future chasing type
Would play on the day in the AB if the ground was soft/heavy as if often can be on the last day
 
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