Triumph Hurdle 2018

[Scooby91]

Scooby,
Having your finger on the pulse with the juveniles have you got Falcas covered, and if so at what price. I can't get a price for the horse. Mitchouka has solid form but Kennedy has chosen Falcas. I'd like him covered just in case he's very good.

I haven't got him covered, he could be anything off the flat, I'm not worried about him personally, i would expect espoir d'allen has him covered, if he dosent i should have plenty to get
Him beat, waiting more for msassa but hoping a few more books add him ad I can't get a decent price atm.



FARCLAS

HONGRE (11/05/2017)*PS*GR

Born on*26/02/2014*

By*JUKEBOX JURY*out of*FLORIANA*(SEATTLE DANCER)

Trainer*EXPORTATION DEFINITIVE-IRL (19/09/2017)

Owners*PROPRIETE NON DECLAREE

Breeders*R. GIGER ( 33,33%)*HU. FRUH ( 33,33%)*E. ENZ (33%)

Premiums eligible*Oui

EBF Eligible*Oui

Rating*36

Horse Form :*1p4p4p(16)4p

Certificat d'exportation non déposé

* * ** ** ** ** ** ** *Race record** ** ** ** *Performances** ** ** ** *Entries** ** ** ** *Pedigree** ** ** ** ** ** *

1

29/08/2017

CLAIREFONTAINE ( )

Flat - 2.400 m

Prizemoney
12.500

+

4

29/07/2017

VICHY ( )

Flat - 2.400 m

Prizemoney
2.200

+

4

29/04/2017

LYON PARILLY ( )

Flat - 2.200 m

Prizemoney
2.700

+

4

19/11/2016

LYON PARILLY (ETALONS )

Flat - 2.000 m

Prizemoney
1.600

+

 

[doctorwu]

Thanks for that Scooby. I'll stop worrying about him now.

 

[Scooby91]

Thanks for that Scooby. I'll stop worrying about him now.

Might be worth requesting him to be added just in case. So you could get a good price quickly if he did beat espoir d'allen.

 

[Scooby91]

On a pretty quiet weekend of racing there's likely to be 1 star.
MSASSA, im really looking forward to him on Sunday.

 

[TheRowebot]

On a pretty quiet weekend of racing there's likely to be 1 star.
MSASSA, im really looking forward to him on Sunday.

Ruby:

Msassa makes his debut for us in the juvenile hurdle. I don’t know if he’s a Mr Adjudicator or a Stormy Ireland, but he does work nicely at home, and is in good form. You’d have to be encouraged by the fact the only two other juveniles we have run have won, so hopefully he can make it three.

 

[Geordieboy83]

On stormy Ireland, what is the next target anyone know?

 

[Scooby91]

Ruby:

Msassa makes his debut for us in the juvenile hurdle. I don’t know if he’s a Mr Adjudicator or a Stormy Ireland, but he does work nicely at home, and is in good form. You’d have to be encouraged by the fact the only two other juveniles we have run have won, so hopefully he can make it three.

The form of his 1 run is very good. Spinnozar / Tunis pol are graded winners on sequences and plenty of runs to go by.

 

[Viking Flagship]

Would you expect Msassa to be ahead of Stormy Ireland based on the French form Scooby?

 

[Scooby91]

Would you expect Msassa to be ahead of Stormy Ireland based on the French form Scooby?

Hard to go on 1 run. .But if that 1 run was true to form, he's had plenty of time with Willie, He'd be infront of everything

 

[Viking Flagship]

Noted! :encouragement:

 

[TheRowebot]

Hard to go on 1 run. .But if that 1 run was true to form, he's had plenty of time with Willie, He'd be infront of everything

Very weak today, out to 2/1 from 4/7. Lots of money for Muzbid. Mullins bumper runner also on the drift but that’s probably more to do with the jockey rather than a potential issue in the yard..

Edit: now a non runner. Something is definitely up at Closutton.

 

[Scooby91]

Sao finally out at the weekend would expect him to beat we have a dream. If nicholls has him in good order

 

[Scooby91]

So tempted to back sao at 5/1 ew for the finale hurdle. Small field guaranteed
id be assuming thats where he goes. And we have a dream being backed for the tolworth which makes no sense to me.
But obviously sao may not run at all.

 

[KingSprinterSacre]

Sao is not one I know too well. Whats the story with him Scooby?

 

[Scooby91]

Sao is not one I know too well. Whats the story with him Scooby?

I just seen on there website he could go chepstow aswell. He might be one that's looked over and a decent price available having not ran over here yet anyway.


COMPIEGNE*02.05.2017

7

16h00

PRIX GACKO*More

Hurdles - 3.200 m - Terrain TR SOUPLE (3,8 )

Previous raceNext race

REPLAY

1N°08

SAO H.PS. 3 a.

67 kg (66 kg)

J : JAMES REVELEY
T : G. MACAIRE (S)

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2N°04
5/4

Hell Boy H.Ps. 3 A.

67 kg

J : REGIS SCHMIDLIN
T : FM. COTTIN (S)

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3N°03
3.L

GOOD LUCKY H.PS. 3 A.

67 kg

J : BERTRAND LESTRADE
T : G. MACAIRE (S)

+

4N°06
4.L

WE HAVE A DREAM H.PS. 3 A.

66 kg

J : ALAIN DE CHITRAY
T : MLLE T. PUITG

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5N°01
15L

WORLD AMIRAL M.PS. 3 a.

66 kg (68 kg)

J : JOHAN ETHEVE
T : S. CULIN

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6N°05
CTT

ANIO H.PS. 3 a.

66 kg

J : ANTHONY LECORDIER
T : JP. GALLORINI (S)

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7N°07
4.L

SHAZAIN H.PS. 3 a.

66 kg

J : ALEXIS ACKER
T : M. ROLLAND (S)

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8N°09
LON

NUMBER MOON H.PS. 3 a.

64 kg (66 kg)

J : RAPHAEL MAYEUR
T : G. CHEREL

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TBN°02

CALINIGHT H.PS. 3 a.

65 kg (67 kg)

J : THOMAS HENDERSON
T : G. CHEREL

 

[Scooby91]

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HONGRE (11/04/2016)*PS*BAI

Born on*01/05/2014*

By*GREAT PRETENDER*out of*MISS COUNTRY(COUNTRY REEL)

Trainer*EXPORTATION DEFINITIVE-GBR (16/05/2017)

Owners*PROPRIETE NON DECLAREE

Breeders*P. GASDOUE

Premiums eligible*Oui

EBF Eligible*Oui

Horse Form :*(17)1hTh

Certificat d'exportation non déposé

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1

02/05/2017

COMPIEGNE ( )

Hurdles only - 3.200 m

Prizemoney
23.040

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TB

08/04/2017

AUTEUIL ( )

Hurdles only - 3.000 m

Prizemoney
0

+

 

[Scooby91]

Sao is not one I know too well. Whats the story with him Scooby?

The form of his 1 win is very good , comes from the maccaire academy.
good lucky, hell boy both have good form. And we habe a dream is obviously there behind . Good lucky is a listed winner amongst other good form.. hell boy is a good horse at a quick glance he dosent have a string of 1s next to his name but hes ran in very competative races. And his form is very nice.

 

[KingSprinterSacre]

Interesting. Thanks for the info

 

[Scooby91]

Interesting. Thanks for the info

Its just funny that Sao who went of 2nd fav 5/2 has got we have a dream 8/1 soundly beaten over 8L behind in 4th who has the experience of a prior run and soundly beaten again after by demopolis.
We have a dream comes over here and wins a couple of micky mouse races stylishly and all of a sudden .
Sao is 5/1 We have a dream is 11/10.

And we have a dream is a silly price for the triumph.

 

[Kevloaf]

Its just funny that Sao who went of 2nd fav 5/2 has got we have a dream 8/1 soundly beaten over 8L behind in 4th who has the experience of a prior run and soundly beaten again after by demopolis.
We have a dream comes over here and wins a couple of micky mouse races stylishly and all of a sudden .
Sao is 5/1 We have a dream is 11/10.

And we have a dream is a silly price for the triumph.

What factors could have made the UK bookies go 11/10 and 5/1?

WHAD proven in the UK? Benefit of fitness?

Can obviously see the straight forward case for Sao you put forward, seems strange that bookies wouldn't also put that research in?