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2017 Fred Winter

Where everyone getting weights information from? Thought they were not out until tomorrow or Thursday for Handicaps.
 
Its high based on recent winners, but might be low enough to tempt them? Still think this race off 139 will be easier to win than the Triumph.
 
hubert said:
And no mention of him in Nickys Stable Tour on at the races.. Plot thickens!
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He was mentioned on the Sportinglife and Stan James blog though
 
Liam301287 said:
Where everyone getting weights information from? Thought they were not out until tomorrow or Thursday for Handicaps.
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The rating I gave for Divin Bere is the weekly adjustment that the BHA make and publish on a Tuesday. The Irish marks will not be released until the Cheltenham announcement.
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Its high based on recent winners, but might be low enough to tempt them? Still think this race off 139 will be easier to win than the Triumph.
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I would agree but at the same time, Domperignon Du Lys looks nicely weighted now that he'd get an extra 2lbs from Divin Bere and he's very unexposed as well and has good French bumper form in the book.
 
Im eagerly awaiting Long Call's rating... hope he isnt going to get treated too harshly on the back of Master Blueyes subsequent exploits.
 
Jackie. Speaking of DdL, have you any idea why the horse was moved to PN when it arrived in the UK and then a month later switched to NJH?
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Jackie. Speaking of DdL, have you any idea why the horse was moved to PN when it arrived in the UK and then a month later switched to NJH?
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DdL has always been with Henderson as far as I know but Divin Bere definitely got moved from Nicholls to Henderson. I've never been able to track down a reason why and neither trainer has confirmed either. It's a strange one as the owners still have horses with Nicholls but chose to move this one and no others. Nicholls is equally adept at training Juveniles so that is not a reason either.
 
Sorry I meant DB!

Yes weird isnt it. Wondered if they had fallen out, but saw they still had other horses with him.
 
What do we think of couer De lion chances in this seems good value with good course form behind defi du seil
 
Trickytrickster said:
What do we think of couer De lion chances in this seems good value with good course form behind defi du seil
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I wouldn't read that form too literally Tricky, Defi de Seuil never came out of second gear that day and he doesn't have the required flat rating to make his presence felt in a Triumph Hurdle, 82 is the mark needed...
 
Istabraq said:
I wouldn't read that form too literally Tricky, Defi de Seuil never came out of second gear that day and he doesn't have the required flat rating to make his presence felt in a Triumph Hurdle, 82 is the mark

Cheers ista where can i find the flat ratings. Been trying t stick a bit more to trends this time round. Was all for master blueeyes before last run so maybe divin bere on Der clash
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The Storyteller is of interest for me in this. Providing his mark of 138 doesnt go up to much or at all. But his current mark makes him very interesting
 
Jonnymac05 said:
The Storyteller is of interest for me in this. Providing his mark of 138 doesnt go up to much or at all. But his current mark makes him very interesting
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From what I've heard jm he is going for the Pipe race.

I tipped him up last week.
 
Trickytrickster said:
Istabraq said:
I wouldn't read that form too literally Tricky, Defi de Seuil never came out of second gear that day and he doesn't have the required flat rating to make his presence felt in a Triumph Hurdle, 82 is the mark

Cheers ista where can i find the flat ratings. Been trying t stick a bit more to trends this time round. Was all for master blueeyes before last run so maybe divin bere on Der clash
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Sporting Life has become a joke so I';m getting used to the Sky Sports racing data, profile below:

http://www.skysports.com/racing/form-profiles/horse/933058/coeur-de-lion

CDL flat rating 72.
Worth also using BHA website for current ratings that are updated weekly...
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Totally agree with that Istabraq !, what a stupid time to Revamp your website .3 weeks before a major festival . Used to go on every day and really easy , profiles etc, but now everything i try to look at comes up >>error !!. like you , sky profiles seem ok . stick to that for now .
 
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